Received via Email 4-11-07 Hey, just heard a couple of medics are going to drop their patch, and a couple more are leaving before the summers end. Na, we don't have a moral problem. Oh, by the way, hey Billy Jack, are you as bad ass as Jackie Chan, because he is pretty bad ass !!
Bruce Lee jr.
TEAM: Add a couple to your couple...
Received via Email 4-12-07 I loved the Chief's current events memo where he states that a current Captain's retirement is just a "rumor". The guy has already had his going away party at the station. The man is leaving! Way to know whats going on Chief.
Received via Email 4-12-07 I love the most recent current events memo that came out. It all but told us what our next contract is going to be. And it did so while hiding behing the anticipated Florida tax cut. Here's a solution...if the property tax rate is cut, then increase the number of properties that the city taxes. In a nut shell, go sell some more G** damn condos you big bird looking mother f******!
TEAM: One of the mayor's many fans, speaks...
Received via Email 4-12-07 The mayor of Tampa has withdrawn the bill that would have increased pension benefits for city employees. She cited the tax reform that appears to be coming at the state level. "With cities facing severe cuts in revenue, it is not the time for expensive increases such as pension changes" Ain't our timing wonderful?
Received via Email 4-12-07 Better add more than a few couples. Rumor has it there is a bunch who now are filling out apps. with other departments, not just medics, but emts also. Hang on to your skivys div chiefs, we may have a mass exodus like never seen before. Yeah, keep putting good people off duty because of their annual physicals, and keep harassing good firefighters by making them take psychological test before they can return to duty because they didnt crawl through your friggin maze. The person in question has fought more fires than all of the div chiefs put together, but hey, that dont matter. Hey, its all about bugle power, and you peon FFs dont have any, so shut the hell up and take your medicine like a man. Oh, I mean dont take your medicine, or we'll put you off duty for that too!!
TEAM: Please tell us if you can, who it is that is getting pinched for not going through the maze. During the recent spate of training in Largo, it is my understanding that some had stated their preference NOT to go through the maze and nothing more was said of it. They supposedly completed all other aspects of the training, but didn't see the value in running through the maze, and as such, did not!
Received via Email 4-13-07 I was there when Lt. @ 8A elected not to go through the maze.
Received via Email 4-13-07 Gerald Crum is on light duty for not doing the maze. That piece of shit DG took vacation time every shift so he would not have to do the drill but that is okay.
Received via Email 4-13-07 DG is a Lt and not a shop guy.
Received via Email 4-13-07 Okay, so let me get this right. We keep throwing medics under the bus AND we've got medics going through medic school. Anyone wanna wager to guess where those guys are going in the future? I mean, how lame is it to shit on your people and expect them to lend a hand in acquiring new hires? I've heard that some here and there have been questioned as to whether or not they have taken part in dissuading individuals from coming here to work. Give me a break. I don't know how THEY answered, but if anyone asks me, I'm gonna tell it like it is.
Here's a great question - ask yourself if you'd have your son or daughter work here. My wife already thinks I'm a ticking time bomb, so I guess you know what our answer's going to be! It used to be fun to get up in the morning and go to the fire station. Now I get up and go to work.
See you all at the salt mines.
F*** The Mutts Protect The Brothers & Sisters
Received via Email 4-13-07 You guys quit yer bitchin and get back to work. After all, if you didn't work here, you wouldn't be employable.
Chief Lou Zer
Received via Email 4-14-07 Hey team, how come the reset and submit buttons are backwards on this page? I have erased some really meaningful and powerful nuggets of wisdom because of it. Earlier I submitted and accidentally erased a way to get us all about 9 to 11% annual raises over the next 6 years. But alas, the stupid backward buttons have cost us dearly.
Thanks for listening.
Al Sharpton, Professional Hater
P.S. The secret is extortion. Don't tell anybodies.
TEAM: Ugh, ugh... TEAM fix!
Received via Email 4-14-07 Paramedics complain because they are being mistreated from more than one direction. Firefighters bitch because they are bitches. Now do you understand the difference? Hope this helps.
Gloria Steinem
TEAM: With or without a bra?
Received via Email 4-14-07 I am a medic with over 8 years on the job and I just want to say something about one of our biggest problems in the stations. Honestly, the places are getting kind of crummy. I think you firefighters should spend more time cleaning them up and showing some pride in your jobs. And while you're at it, cook me up something tasty, all right honey? Thanks. You're a doll!
Proud Veteran and Team Player Medic
Gitmore Butee
Received via Email 4-14-07 First hand info, reported from some medic students, that they will be going elsewhere once they get their certification. Is this city dumb or what !!! But, who could blame them (the medic students) for wanting to go elsewhere. It is kinda of a nice payback to this great city that continues to screw its firefighters and other public safety personnel.
TEAM: We think the cops originated the idea. Some of them aren't even out of the academy before they've taken another job, elsewhere. Remember what we always say... "We are incapable of original thought!"
Received via Email 4-14-07 Hey the city ran the police department into the ground and now their sites on on the fire department. Whats next, the librarians. Sheeeeesssse !!!! Time for a change in city leadership. Hopefully next time it will be leaders with education in government services, not a bunch of crooked attorneys and business tycoons who care about only themselves!!!!!! Public service is the key, not greedy money making condo salesman.
Received via Email 4-14-07 I took a vacation day and there wasn't even time on the books. I wonder how I did that? Have a nice day!
TEAM: We've already identified you and you will be visited shortly. Resistance if futile!
Received via Email 4-14-07 One of these days I'm going to spin out and lose it!
Received via Email 4-14-07 I'll have an adult beverage waiting for you.
Received via Email 4-15-07 Hey speaking of the # 8A guy who is getting hammered by our ole friend GL, is it just me or do we all agree GL is the one who needs to see the shrink, not Lt G.C. I think the little ole man is really losing it. He has not only lost his height but now he has lost his mind. Whats next, maybe he'll lose some of those bushy nose hairs that he exposes. You know, the ones with friggin green slime hanging off them when ever he sneezes.
"Danger Danger"
Will Robinsons physician,
Dr. Smith.
Received via Email 4-15-07 Yeah yeah... that maze thing is really interesting. Anyone have any idea when we're picketing next? Council got more than a 40% pay raise before this state tax shit hit the fan. We're getting 3.5% shoved up and broken off in our ass. Council feels so bad about the possibility that there's going to be some cut backs, that their first cut back is going to be off of our backs. I don't see them returning any of the 40% or volunteering to take MY pay raise.
I hope Winnie bangs this drum, loud and long. They got theirs when the getting was good. That pr**k Mike Connors decided that council and the mayor were behind in pay. Why not run the same comparisons for us, asshole? I think you'll find that we're even further behind now. We deserve better than this and we need to throw all of these assholes out of office that voted to keep our pay at the bottom of the charts for several more years.
Other than the 11 total dumb asses that voted to ratify this total shit pile contract, is there anyone else here that's decided that they're not going to lift another finger beyond what's essential in aiding the communty? I'm not but there's still too many of you who don't show up for union meetings and still too many of you who keep showing up for overtime. Helloooooooooooooooooooo... you're working against me and YOU! You're like a cheap whore (ha... cheap whore... depending on the pay cycle I guess) that's prostituting yourself and your trying to convince everyone that your profession is legit. Legit whore? Yeah, right!
And another thing. Hey you captains out there that haven't figured it out yet. Want or NEED a bathroom painted? Paint it yourself. Don't vollunteer me and mine and don't come to my officer on my shift and say "my guys are doing it. Why not yours too"? If we all paint it - we're not all getting promoted so b**w me! The trouble will some of you sucking around the chief's last floater, started when you all got promoted out of the union. Now that you're back in, treat it like a present, not like you're pissing 7% down a rat hole. And to you guys that voted not to rejoin the union, you kissed Callahans ass and voted to stay out, but you sure signed up fast when you were able to get back in again so as not to be called scabs. "Dues paying scabs apply here!"
I know this is for sure. Whatever this thieving city wants, I want the opposite.
Received via Email 4-15-07 Three weeks ago, there was a tremendous uproar and the beginnigs of a revolution, anyone remember? All of the special teams members were signing petions to drop out of the teams. Guess what? Maybe 2 or 3 actually went through with it. Everyone else forgot of was gotten to yet again. I guess we showed them.
TEAM: The flesh is weak.
Received via Email 4-16-07 The plan was weak.
TEAM: True dat...
Received via Email 4-16-07 When the going gets tough, the weak change their minds.
Received via Email 4-19-07 Lazy Ass Suppression? Where the hell have you been hiding you medic pr**k? Types like you , that hide behind the patch, that anyone could get, just look at SK, or TW, RN ! If you can memorize a book, hell you can be a medic! How many calls can YOU get out of, delayed, clean up, f'in off at Bayfront? The only time YOU want to be a Firefighter, is if you hear multiple calls received, PD states flames showing! You jump the call, and go pump your pathetic lil we we.. OK enough of your type of slander/posting? Sound familiar? Wake the hell up, stop being so arrogant. Your part of the fire rescue department. ACT LIKE IT!
Received via Email 4-19-07 Hey 4/19 #1, you fire guys sure get cranky sitting around all day waiting for the medics to come back. Remember honey that "big and red and stays in bed" is not an expression created for rescue trucks. Come on, sweet stuff-- go make me a sandwich. Maybe daddy will buy you something pretty.
Received via Email 4-20-07 What ever happened to all those members getting off of the specialty teams? Last I heard we still had a new boat on the way and HazMat & T4 are still responding to calls. So much for sticking it to the man. I guess 60 cents an hour will win every time.
Received via Email 4-20-07 2nd 4/19, ok waterboy, get us some water or power aide - after the fire we put out while you are wishing you had the guts to go inside. We'll make a sandwich for you at the station, you just keep the power aide flowing at the real deal, and we will have a great relationship.
Received via Email 4-20-07 Where did you learn that ANYone can get a paramedic patch? Was it during your intensive 9 week fire academy? What a sad little fella you must be. Now go clean the toilets and work on your apology.
Received via Email 4-20-07 Let's see: The engine arrives with 3 guys, one driving and one officer and one guy left to put out the fire. The ladder truck shows up with two guys who will be needed to set the truck up, and the rescue with one guy to run rehab and the other to go fight the fire. That's 33% firefighting participation from the engine, zero% from the truck and 50% from the rescue. Statistically that proves that paramedics are involved in more firefighting than any blue shirt suppression personnel. in other words at the station suppression guys are there to clean toilets, and at alarms they are there to sit on the trucks and watch the EMS guys put out the fires. Now go make me a nice cake for dessert. You know how I like it beyotch.
George Clooney starring in The Peacemaker
TEAM: Your math interests us. You must have been a Gary Cornhole or Mike Connwhores understudy.
Received via Email 4-20-07 There has been some who got off the specialty teams it just does not make the headlines because it is so small and the city or department really do not care.
Received via Email 4-21-07 4th 4/20, your right, the suppression units are short handed, but they are inside fighting the dragon while your outside getting the ice and water ready. Oh yeah, two from the rescue are supposed to dress out, but when you do, you are most often found fiddly fartin around with your gear that you have never put on. By the time you get your gear on, the fire is out and the work is over. So just stay by your nurse wagon and keep the water and power aide cold, the work will be over soon and you can go back to rolling a drunk or putting a bandaid on a little boo boo. Maybe EMS runs 85% of all calls , but you know as well as I do that 95% of those are BS. When we get a hooked up fire (at least a few working fires each week, department wide) we will be waiting for our water and poweraide. When you get back to the station we will make you a nice cake dessert, so you can sweeten yourself after your wittle band aid run. Cause gosh darn, its hard work standing there while your EMT who just fought a fire the shift before is doing all the friggin crap work for you. Oh but hey, your are the sweet cake eater making the big bucks. Most medics are such cry babies, except the ones with about 15 or more years on the job. So you little new medics, go put your little snuggly jumper suits on and go to beddie by, and dream about some day, maybe being a real firefighter. ok Pilgrim!
John Wayne (The Duke) starring in (In Harm's Way)
Received via Email 4-21-07 Now even John Wayne admits that there are only a few fires a week department wide divided by 12 stations. Thank you John. Thats at best a fire per station every 6 to 12 weeks. He also admitted it's suppressions job to make the medics happy with food and treats. Now go put on something nice and lacy for me, okay Marion? According to YOUR numbers it might be 3 months before you have anything else to do.
Al Pacino starring in Scarface
Say allo to my leetle frang
Received via Email 4-21-07 fighting the dragon? NINJA WARRIOR RULES!
Received via Email 4-22-07 The dragon is a MFS thing, at least thats the mascot we display. Ninja warriors don't rule, its the Samurai.
Capt. Nathan Algren
Received via Email 4-22-07 REALITY CHECK: That whole dragon thing is ultra gay.
Received via Email 4-22-07 No doubt. Show me a guy who has a picture of a dragon in his locker, on his bumper, or tattooed on his body, and I will show you a guy who watched his Backdraft DVD about a thousand times naked.
Received via Email 4-22-07 What about flame tatoos? Are they okay?
Received via Email 4-23-07 In Key West flame tattooed dudes are known as "flamers". I don't know what we call them here.
Received via Email 4-23-07 4 4/22 Did you say- is a flaming tatoo okay ?
4-24-07 Please read, understand and COMMIT to taking back your future. Top of page...
Received via Email 4-23-07 Hey, I thought everyone in Keywest was known as a flamer.
Rescheduled Union Meeting - Thursday night!
Received via Email 4-24-07 I thought the MFS's mascot was a box of Pampers!
Received via Email 4-25-07 Sweet! When does the bombing start?
Received via Email 4-25-07 That's only on the "A" Shift.
Received via Email 4-25-07 Raise your hand if you believe there are those among us who would rather make their buddy the chief, happy rather than obtain a good contract.
Received via Email 4-25-07 I'm not gonna say that you're shit stirring. You can't be if you're telling the truth. Gee. I wonder how the captains and the chiefs are going to vote to accept their big 3.5%, 3.5% pay raise. No matter what "WE" do, these guys are never going to stick their necks out for anyone as a group. If next week we land a 5% deal, these same sheeple will be back in Winnie's office asking, "Hey, don't we get that bump in pay too"? It must be nice to rely on the FF's and Lt.'s to do all the hard work. Give us a call if you pu**ies ever hold a picket of your own. I'll see if I can be available to listen to the answering machine!
Received via Email 4-25-07 Its obviously time to take paramedic pay somewhere above lieutenant, probably at least half way to captain. Any objections?
Thanks. Future paramedic of the year.
Received via Email 4-25-07 4-25 #4 Shit stirring? Not from my perspective. Some of these guys project that "born leader" image like we're all still buying it. I laugh at the MM's, MD's and the DA's of the world. They love to throw rocks at us for sticking to our principles but have none of their own. They spin their little web and try to get under our skin. "Winnie's gonna drag you all down!" "Winnie's gonna drag you all down!" Well, so far that's not happened and you guys are now eating a big shit sandwich. Nobody believes any of you mutts have got the mojo anymore cuz you've been wrong about everything that you've tried to brainwash us with. You keep licking the chief's ballz like it's going to make a difference.
Well, it does to one person. The chief's still smiling. Dumbasses!
Received via Email 4-26-07 Here's a short story for you. My wife ran into a friend of hers the other day who is a friend of a friend of a friend who says that she heard a story from someone who works for St. Petersburg Fire & Rescue. That person told my wife that she had heard that the dept. had the worst morale of any in the area and that they were having a hard time finding medics and wondered how I was getting along.
I want everyone who doesn't work here to know that from what I'm told, everything here is fine. There's a group of guys who work here and kind of run things their own way. They're pretty smart. They pulled one over on the city and maybe some others too. They made like theyt wanted to be in the union, but they all voted not to be in the union so that their other friend who's a drunk wouldn't figure out that these guys were switch hitting on him. He went to the city and told them "no way! there ain't gonna be no stinking captains or chief's in any union around here!" Anyway, I listen to them and they tell me that everything's going to be alright, just to follow their lead. I just wish that my wife's friend of a friend of a friend had such good freinds as me!
Signed,
20+ year man.
Received via Email 4-26-07 We need a list of all the officers that are there for the firefighters and another list showing those that are there for themselves (selfish,one way, they kiss the chiefs ass like their his buddy only to be unloyal to him and everyone else). The true officers are those that support the troops, tell the chiefs the truth to try and improve moral-they are the most loyal to the organization but the unlearned at HQ don't see it that way - why ? because they came from that other list mentioned. They care more about what they want and their little power and money bag, than true public service to each other and the citizens. Yeah ! someone make out that list and lets post it so all the newbys can see. The rest of us already know who they all are. Probably why this web site was created in the first place. To right the wrong, and expose the true unloyal, who are firefighters in name only !!
TEAM: For a lot of reason that you've mentioned - but largely because of Rob Dobbins!
Received via Email 4-26-07 You post the list you p**sy!
Received via Email 4-26-07 Well the first officer that screws his crew would be SZ from 4A ask anyone there.
Received via Email 4-26-07 Add the 3rd 4/26 to the list of a holes
Received via Email 5-1-07 While you were screwing around throwing crap at each other someone posted some facts on this site. They're a little hard to see but worth the effort. Go to the top of the page and right click any where you want. Now click on the words "select all". See? There's some factual data that should be taking up your time and not the time worn bullshit of paramedics versus the rest of the department. While you were whining someone else was staying on point. Too bad you can't funnel all that petty bickering into some worthwhile dialog.
VCF
Received via Email 5-1-07 To the a whole list - you need to add all those that are refusing to sign up for this years MDA boot drives. I cant believe what I am hearing. All because the City F**ked us over, we have members that feel by not showing up on the corners for the needing they will show the union whats what. I for one will be there this Saturday even if I'm standing by myself.
TEAM: You won't be there alone, Bro'/Sis'. The TEAM will be all over this one!
There shouldn't be anyone in this Local that can't make it to at least ONE of the THREE weekend dates. MDA is a labor of love for Professional Fire Fighters and we are the number one contributors to Jerry's Kids - every single year! The charities that we support have nothing to do with supporting this shitbag city that doesn't support it's Fire Fighters.
We should all be signing our names on the sign-up sheets or calling the Union hall with the location and dates that each of us will stand up for the cause.
We should saturate each and every corner where we collect. Those of you who are on duty, bring your apparatus and get some mileage out of it.
We should enjoy every moment that we're out in the sunshine, walking upright on two good legs for those who can't.
And finally... at the end of ours task, we should enjoy a little time away from the worries of the day and drink a few drinks; eat a few burgers and enjoy each others company. MDA calendar at http://www.iaff747.com/
Received via Email 5-2-07 Now that Don Imus has all this free time, why dont we ask him to run our union?
Received via Email 5-2-07 To 5/2 Why not Don Imus? Because he was paid to "shoot the shit" with politicians. Winnie's currently paid to "slap the shit out of "politicians. And the small minded politicians in this small minded city need the shit slapped out of them. FTM
Received via Email 5-2-07 I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on Imus's face if he was the last man on earth. No wait. Thats not how it goes. Something to do with an ice pick or something. Shit. Sorry. I'll be back later.
Poor Memory Guy
Can't Say Where, Florida
Received via Email 5-2-07 Do we have a contract yet? What's taking so long?
TEAM: Your question should be: "Do we have a contract that compares favorably to others?" Answer: No! Bullshit city, bullshit contract.
Received via Email 5-2-07 I checked that flame tattoo thing out and if you have a flame tattoo anywhere on your body it means that you have either been someones bitch or done a bitch while doing time. And thats a bad thing. Hope this info helps and have a good day.
Martha Stewart
Done a bitch, Maine
Received via Email 5-4-07 Also you need to post all the firefighters that didnt show up for the sickle cell drive also. I can only think of maybe 10 people show up all three days we were doing it.
Received via Email 5-5-07 I was too busy with classes. Gotta get those certs so I can get promoted. Anyone got any kneepads I can borrow?
Received via Email 5-5-07 Not busy with classes, just too busy for this medial bullshit. Lets put on a golf tourney or something. Raise money for both causes instead of panhandling for some chump change with the same 10 people every year.
Received via Email 5-7-07 I have a better idea. This weekend we managed to squeeze out $6,500 from our supporters. If this is such chump change why don't you make it easier on us all and just write a check for this amount yourself? Don't forget we do this on 3 weekends so multiply that chump amount by 3 Or how about stroking that check for a round number like $20K? Pretty chumpy aint it? Oh yeah, give a call to M. Domonte and he will tell you why "we" (he) don't put on golf tourneys anymore.
Received via Email 5-9-07 Can I have that big steamy pile of dog shit at the top of the page as my station logo? I think it represents this department better than some idiotic caricature. Maybe it's bum shit, that would even better.
TEAM: Everyone qualifies to own a piece. Remember what you get when you polish a turd...
Received via Email 5-9-07 Apparently you can have anything you want for a logo so long as it doesn't include the words LOCAL 747! Ask the crews at station 9. They're getting it broken off in their ass by these union busting punks. Every one of these pri*ks in management paid dues to the same local while they were coming up through the ranks. I guess that's all they ever did. The only reason they ever paid was so they wouldn't be called SCABS! They're much worse now. They've become OLD WOMEN WITH MANGINA'S!
Received via Email 5-12-07 How bout bakers nose for a mascot, it can represent one of our low staffed ladder trucks.
Received via Email 5-14-07 That's Ram-Air induction man! He should be good for about 400 horsepower.
Received via Email 5-17-07 I'll be interested to see what kind of bullshit offer they present us at this new negotiation meeting. I can hear it now, "With all the cut backs, we can only offer you 2%, 2%, & 2%". And, "Why are you so angry you just got a huge 3.5% raise?"
Received via Email 5-21-07 It is amazing we we will now be signing for another 3.5%, when we could of had the 15% over the same amount of time. Hold off for what enhancements? Yes there was a 15% offer over three years instead of the 7 we are ending up with.
signed, Bargaining team member
Received via Email 5-21-07 5/21 whos we we ?
Received via Email 5-21-07 To 5-21 - #1... Vote it down, "bargaining team member!" I guess you didn't do your part of we'd have the 15% you're talking about, huh? One can never predict the future (unless they're you) so I'd rather die with my combat boots on fighting this shitbag city and all of it's mutts than continue to be someone's bitch (like you) and go out like a sheeple with a sore asshole. You wimpy types disgust me! Take the next two pay raises and give me a COLA!
Received via Email 5-22-07 Hey dipshit, it appears they aren't giving us shit, so we might as well take the money. We can not even get the sick time changed that every other city employee receives.Take the extra pay and invest, their is your cola. I might be wimpy but at least I am not counting on being able to live on the pension when I retire.
signed
K.Y. Jelly
Received via Email 5-22-07 Pension? We have a pension?
Received via Email 5-24-07 Money to a firefighter is like heroin to a junkie. It puts you to sleep. Wake up ladies. We have another round to go with the city idiots. We should be doing everything humanly possible to disrupt and make miserable the lives of all four of those bottom feeders that sold us out on the last council meeting. Take special interest in the future of John Bryan. We need to stay in his sh-t night and day. Since everyone is busy spending their 3.5% the city is figuring out how to give us even less the next time.
By the way....now that that contract has been settled would it be asking too much for the president to disclose the "secret plan" that was gonna gain us a lifetime of happiness and contentment? We went for several years being told that there was a super duper scary damn plan that the Pres. had up his sleeve and when he decided to employ it the earth would stop rotating on it's axis. Seeing as that didn't happen would it be asking too much to have him share that plan with us so that we can see and hear what COULD have happened but didn't? No ??? Why not??? Oh, ok. I guess we're gonna use it again this time and he doesn't want to disclose any secrets. I certainly hope it works better this time. Last time was a teeny weeny bit weak.
So sleep tight folks. I'll wake you up next September when the contract status quo has again expired and the council is about to butt //// us all again. Then we can prance and parade up and down in front of city hall and tell each other how tough we are and how the council is soiling themselves on a regular basis due to our superior tactics at the bargaining table. And again we can fail to understand the impact and power we give the council when we let them all, and certain one's in particular, mess with the lives of our families while they, the mayor and council, live it up on Snell Isle. Here's a prediction for you. Council will be very aware of the way they spend money up front during the next year. So to counteract for their inability to do things related to themselves out in the open they'll again sneak new benefits for themselves in the middle of the night when they'll vote to give themselves and all future council members a lifetiime pension consisting of 75% of their total earnings during their time in office, available immediately upon leaving office, and a COLA every five years. They'll justify their actions based on comparisons made to other council's world wide. The Times will endorse them and the public will bless the program as being progressive beyond belief. You heard it first here.
Received via Email 5-25-07 Who went and woke Tully up again?
Received via Email 5-26-07 "now that that contract has been settled would it be asking too much for the president to disclose the "secret plan"" If you'd been following ANY plan, we'd all be following the ONLY plan. The plan says that we should be voting this piece of shit contract offer down, yet again and making it readily apparent that we are worth more than the paultry 3.5% that they're offering us. My back is tire from carrying the rest of the city on it.
Received via Email 5-26-07 I could not agree more. Until we somehow educate the public, council will continue to stick it in our ass while fattening their own wallets. #1 priority: get rid of those in council who do not support us.
Received via Email 5-26-07 There it is, the famous, "You heard it here first". If you're so in tune with what the city is going to do, why not call the union office to lend some advice, instead of bashing the union pres. on these pages. Just a thought.
Received via Email 5-26-07 TO 5/26/07 --- #3
I'm not "bashing" the union president. I'm only asking for answers to the the question of when are we gonna use the "secret plan" that the president said he had. To ask for clarification on a tactic that was so secret no one else was allowed the knowledge is not "bashing". Bashing is when you blame the president for everything that's wrong with the current situation and put the onus on him for all the problems associated with collective bargaining in the city of shit. I do not put things on a personal level unless it's done to me first.
Please...in the future...try to see the attempt (no matter how weak) at humor or possible insidious bullshit when it's posted.
Out of my post all you got from it was the trash talk at the end. Specifically the term "you heard it first here". However it's not unusual since that's what most readers of this site do for some reason. It's always a search for a crack or a niche in the post that they can bray on rather than take the information or opinion enclosed within the post and think about it. It's a fact that my predictions that were made about the last contract all came true. I think that's what really agravates most people. They (you) really hate the fact that those of us who have "been there, done that" are, more often than you'd like to admit, right in our assessment of the situation.
Here's another one for you; Don't plan on voting on any contract any time soon. The city will drag this out until the current excuse of taxation no longer has legs. The "secret plan" will never materialize and the union will bargain from the same position it has for almost three years. There's too many ill infomed weak minded mayoral puppets on the council for us to overcome through political action for many years to come. Although we should try I guess. Consequently our efforts will no doubt be for nothing since the council has aready shown us where their allegience lies. The term limit on the mayor will be our only salvation. You heard it here first. And yes, I am awake. I never went to sleep.
Received via Email 5-29-07 We are not going to get anymore than the Dc's and Captains received. We need to agree on this and start with a clean slate for the next contract.
Received via Email 5-30-07 Or maybe another way of looking at it, the Captains and the DC's didn't fight any harder than they had to. They said something similar, only they said - "Hey, let's take what they give us and if the FF's and Lt's manage to get more, we'll get it too!" We'll be starting clean. Clean pockets! The greatest message that we'll send to council is that we're not willing to fight when it matters most. Corrected
Received via Email 5-31-07 lets go for a three year contract this time 3.5 3.5 3.5 yes wahooo wahooo
Received via Email 6-03-07 I hope everyone remembered to send in their ballots with a nice big "X" next to NO.
Received via Email 6-03-07 To the one who keeps insisting that he/she deserves to hear the secret plan...well keep wishing, you will never hear the plan. There are WAY to many FINO's amongst us that would run at warp 10 to get any information to the city team to give them the advantage. If you think you deserve to know the answer then get your self down to the union office and ask the direct question to the Pres. How about do us all a favor and quit stirring the pot after all the work is done, and instead help start by preparing the meal instead.
Received via Email 6-04-07 Vote yes, we are going to get hammered one way or another. The city will throw that tax sh** at us and will not give sh**. We will be at impasse for years. Take it now and then start the good fight again.
TEAM: Yeah! Jump in when it really matters. The last three years have been a trial run-up to the big stuff.
Received via Email 6-04-07 To Team; the last three years we did not get sh**. I was out there picketing and doing everything else the union had asked of me. I am all for the union but we did not get shit. I missed the negotiation where we were offered the 15% over 3 years. We did not accept. Go to impasse where the council shoved it up our ass. So what makes you think this city is ever going to give a shit and step up to plate and take care of us? Take what we can and continue the fight. This year is all but gone.
TEAM: Difference of opinion, we suppose, but if we don't get what we are owed, we should be going to impasse E-VER-Y SINGLE TIME! If you're owed a long-term debt, you don't walk away from it! Voting-in a piss poor contract is an affirmation that their tactics work and will 'continue' to work. Why should this city's administration change their tactics when so many of us are accepting of them? There's always next time, I guess. If not then, probably later.
Received via Email 6-04-07 Anyone see a pattern here? Lets get all stirred up for a big fight then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Now, lets get all stirred up for the big fight, then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Now, lets get all stirred up for the big fight, then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Now, lets get all stirred up for the big fight, then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Now, lets get all stirred up for the big fight, then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Now, lets get all stirred up for the big fight, then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Now, lets get all stirred up for the big fight, then cave in because the next fight is going to be even bigger. Yes. It does seem like a pattern.
Received via Email 6-04-07 To 6/3/07 - #2 I assume you are speaking to me. I am the only one who is interested in the secret plan offered by the president as the giant killer plan to make the city give us all we asked for and more. Of course I don't expect to see it here and for several reasons. One, there IS no secret plan but when it was let slip that there was one it shut up the members for a while. And two, for the reason you've already stated in your post. Also I don't want or expect to see it since it doesn't exist. All I've ever called for is it's employment at the bargaining table. I think we'd all recognize it if it's as powerful as it's claimed to be. You and I both know there's no secret plan. Never was. I ask only to keep the fact in front of the members that they were lulled into waiting for something that was never gonna happen. And to be alert for it when it happens again. Every president of this local and any other local has used the "secret" at one time or another. It's just to buy time. And more often than not it works like a charm because they want it to succeed in their favor so badly. Now stop baiting me and eat the 3.5% "meal" the local has prepared for you. I respect the point you're making and I'll try to only "stir the pot" once in a while in the future.
Fraternally,
Dick Tully
Received via Email 6-05-07 Team, we have been fighting the good fight with no positive outcome. Everything is going up fuel, food, copays, home insurance. The council has proved they do not give a rats ass about us. What is the sense of going to impasse when we know they are not giving us anything? Take the 3.5 to help offset the rising costs. This year is just about over anyway then take up the good fight again for the 2008-2011 contract.
Received via Email 6-05-07 Dick Tully for Union Pres once again. Come on back and show us the right way to do it Dick.
Received via Email 6-06-07 The right way to do Dick? I thought this was a family site?
Received via Email 6-06-07 Hey Tully. Ever hear that catchy phrase "loose lips sink ships"? If there is a secret plan - you're not going to be told. If there isn't - you're not going to be told that either. If council's reading any of this, please send Dick a paycheck for his services. Not because he's working for us but because he's doing such a good job debunking all of our plans. He's obviously your best attempt at a double agent so he deserves to be paid. Boy, the dinosaurs of yesterday must have been hardup for a president at some point in time.
Received via Email 6-08-07 Hurry hurry hurry. Vote quickly, vote often, VOTE NO!
Received via Email 6-12-07 Is it possible for our union leadership to get us some positive exposure in the Times? We have been taking a beating as of late and I'm concerned the publics view of our financial situation as related to pay and retirement is taking a nose dive. The only opinions I read in the paper are negative. Why has there been no response from the union to educate these people? I'm growing tired of taking a beating in the paper every day. The fact that they keep printing letters from the public calling for an end to our pension plans isn't helping. Where's the response and outrage from our leaders, or do they agree with all that is being written?
Received via Email 6-12-07 It is funny how we settled again. 3 years of bullshit and ended up with less than when we started. I am so glad we are a kick butt union. Hopefully we will be able to keep our jobs with the tax cutbacks. We will see how much pull our union has then.
Received via Email 6-12-07 Nice to see our friends at the St. Pete Times have decided to be so supportive of us during our time of need.
TEAM: Make no mistake. We have no friends at the 'Times. We're simply fodder for the next taxation article.
Received via Email 6-13-07 After nearly 20 years, I will not be renewing my subscription with the Times. I've grown tired of taking it in the shorts from these people while at the same time supporting them with my money. I urge everyone to do the same.
Received via Email 6-14-07 Cancel your subscription OUCH! Now THAT's gonna show em'!
Received via Email 6-14-07 It's a start. If everyone did it, it might make a point. Asshole!
Received via Email 6-14-07 OMG you are going to cancel your subscription?! Grandma, what big balls you have! I was going to hold my breath until I turned blue but geez oh man you really came up with the perfect solution! Bravo smart man. Bravo!
Received via Email 6-14-07 I saw a lot of fire chiefs on the TV in Tally the other day firghting for their people. Was Large there?
Received via Email 6-15-07 Cancel your subscription? Holy shit. That dude's got testosterone to spare!!!!!
Received via Email 6-15-07 Only cancelling your subscription? How about giving them a stern talking to. That would be a fine how do you do oh don't you know.
Received via Email 6-16-07 To 6-14 #4 Are you for real? Did you realize that we weren't even allowed to wear our uniforms at the state house? This mayor doesn't have any regard for you and I and this is the most telling tale to date. We're looking at possibly being upsidedown by several million dollars and our chief isn't on the radar screen but Doug Lewis gets interviewed in his class "A" uniform. Why? Because it is important.
Who thinks the mayor was asked about the wearing of uniforms, raise your hand's?
F**k this administration of cowardly mutts who will never ever grow a nut sack and f**k this cowardly mutt of a mayor too!
Oh yeah FTM!
Received via Email 6-16-07 All this talk about big balls in here but none of you cowardly bastards does anything but talk. All of you that is except for Mr. Big Nutsack that stood up and did something. I am of course talking about that gutsy son of a bitch that actually had the raw courage and gonads of stone to CANCEL his newspaper! Can you imagine that? This guy USED to get a newspaper, but now does NOT! Does his family miss getting the paper? Who gives a shit! Does he miss reading Marmaduke and clipping coupons? Suck my ass he does! But it's not about HIM, it's about US! This guy is ALL man and does things HIS way, baby! Why can't more of you gabby ass pole smokers make that sort of sacrifice for the greater good? I just pray that as time goes by we continue to hire more brave heroes such as this all balls man of steel. Now if you excuse me I have to go get drunk on the beach while 6 or 8 of my co- workers go to the union meeting. Grow a pair you panty wearing fino mutt,
MLK
Received via Email 6-16-07 So Doug Lewis rocks because he wears class A? Sounds like somebody has a crush......
TEAM: We must admit to finding him more 'with it' when he had the really cool mustache of old! Of course, 'back then' he had more hair on top of his head, too.
Received via Email 6-16-07 6-16 #1 - His daddy wouldn't let him go. Let's see what exuse he has when something or someone gets cut. "My daddy wouldn't let me go!"
Received via Email 6-17-07 Well, I must admit that it looks a bit weak that of all the firefighters that showed up in Tallahasse were wearing uniforms while the firefighters representing the 4th largest city in the state, go in suits. St. Petersburg Fire & Rescue will never be a trend setter except when it comes to sucking eggs.
We'll always be a ME TOO fire dept... First at being last!
Mike Hunt Hurtz
Received via Email 6-17-07 That man has just cloned the official motto of the St. Petersburg Fire & Rescue Department. "FIRST AT BEING LAST" Make up decals and put them on your helmet. Put the decal under your IAFF sticker on your car that you're so proud of. And make sure you make the decals big enough so people can read them. Be proud of being lower than whale shit.
Received via Email 6-18-07 Speaking of Class A uniforms, is anyone else tired of looking like grocery store clerks when go to pay respect at memorial services? I have never understood why only the top 5 or 6 officers on our department are allowed to wear dress jackets. I expect that it has something to do with cost, but I would be happy to pay for a dress uniform if it would keep me from wearing nothing but a blue shirt and a stupid clip on tie when I am trying to show respect for a fallen brother or sister. Take 10 bucks a payday until it's paid for if you want, I dont care. I just hate the statement made by our upper ranks that only the top brass are entitled to dress properly when proper dress is required. It's an insult to all shift personnel. Anybody agree?
Received via Email 6-18-07 I am tired of hearing that rumor about Councilman Bryan calling us lazy. Does anyone know if there is any truth to that story?
Dave Fraser
Received via Email 6-18-07 Are we really arguing about whether someone had a suit or uniform on? Does it matter that he even showed up count for anything?
Received via Email 6-19-07 Why weren't those a-holes in Tallahassee wearing rainbow ribbons on their lapels? Are they homophobes? What gives here?
Dave,
I called the Local Tiger Bay Club. The lady that spoke to me couldn't recall him being there recently. I was interested in transcripts, if in fact he had been there. I want to know too! I hear that here are other Tiger bay's Hills, Manatee,anyone know? Webmaster?
JFB
TEAM: Brother Pauley may have some insight for you on the subject.
Received via Email 6-20-07 Brother Pauley. Could you inform us?
Received via Email 6-20-07 Pauley has been drinking the kool aid. My grandfather is a member and told me Bryant has not been there.
Received via Email 6-20-07 Well who is your grandfather, and who are you? I am sure Bro. Pauley would like to know....
Received via Email 6-22-07 David Cozad, you figure out who I am Sherlock. He is my mothers dad so have fun figuring it out.
Received via Email 6-22-07 if you realize the candlelight is fire than the meal was cooked along time ago
Received via Email 6-22-07 Did anyone see our dick of a mayor on TV today? Was he out to look like the city's saviour or what? No PD of FD personnel will be lost due to the tax cuts! Wow. Considering the fact that they've hidded so damned much money out of sight over the past few years, what a surprise. Talk about having your cake and eating it too. This guy just can'f fall in a buck of shit and smell like anything but a rose. Asshole!
Received via Email 6-26-07 What's with the mystery?
Received via Email 6-26-07 Sounds like BM
Received via Email 6-26-07 Hey! I don't much care what Bryan said and who's grand daddy didn't hear it. Bryan's a red neck asshole who's part of the richy rich, in-crowd! If ever this mayor's ass needed a lick, Bryan's toungue would be the perfect enema starter.
TEAM: And we thought that 'we' didn't like him very well. You've been reading our mind!
Received via Email 6-27-07 Way to go Mitch for that great article.
TEAM: Anyone have the link to that?
Received via Email 6-27-07 who is BM?
Received via Email 6-27-07 Well it appears our union did not like the letter. The little general"winnie" wants everything to be approved by the union. Mitch we contribute 7% not 7.5 you dumbass. At least get your facts straight if you are going to write an editorial.
Received via Email 6-27-07 That's nice. Mitch takes the time to actually write an editorial to the paper while most of you just bitch in this forum. Just because he was off .5%, you call him a dumb ass. That's adult. This forum is starting to become a joke.
Received via Email 6-27-07 I don't know if Mitch was grabbing que's from someone else's editorial or what, but he's not the only one who's a former union leader to misrepresent the numbers. Mike Wimmers did the very same thing. Not to be too critical of these folks (because they DID step up to the plate) but if we don't take our own lives seriously enough to take the time to know how much we contribute to our own pension plan, can we really bitch if the fags in city hall don't take us seriously?
Received via Email 6-27-07 A visit to any union board or a chat with your shop steward should have been a sufficient starting place for the right numbers. Your steward has been supplied with all the vital numbers - even if you don't think so. If you ask a question and he doesn't immediately have an answer, the next step is for him is to get it. If he doesn't get it, then you don't get it. Get it?
Received via Email 6-27-07 Before this gets into another Emporer Winnie bashing contest, here's what the letter looks like that 6-27 #3 is talking about:
Letters to the news paper/editor
Brothers and Sisters,
“You can write all the letters you want, but it is impossible to fight someone who buys ink by the barrel. WE MUST Focus on our local politicians not the news paper.”
All members of this Local must understand the importance of being 100% correct, when posting letters for all to read.
Nothing hurts the credibility of an Organization more than incorrect information. It takes many visits with our elected officials to EARN their trust and it only takes one falsehood to destroy that hard earned trust and respect.
While it is your right to post your feelings in the media, it is your responsibility to make certain your claims are factual.
As a member you should seek approval from the Union leadership before you represent yourself as a leader or Past Official of Local 747.
This is not a letter to tie ones hands but instead look at it as yet another way to apprise you to the possible harm that can be done with ill informed information.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Pres, Newton.
Received via Email 6-27-07 At least he had the balls to write a letter 6/27 #3.. Union is a grand idea, but not a dictatorship, so write away!
Received via Email 6-27-07 It is so easy to be a shit stirrer. Get your panties out of a wad start cleaning stop reading and posting.
Sincerely,
The Great FINO
For my next trick I will pull a rabbit out of my A**.
Received via Email 6-29-07 "fags in city hall" - I love it! Truth in advertising.
Received via Email 7-11-07 This is bullshit. Just because they work in city hall they are fags? Be real. They are not the enemy, they are just doing a different job. This doesn't make them fags. It makes them devils.
Received via Email 7-15-07 Why no midgets on the job? Why not GL?! Why the coverup?!! Just do whats right training division! We want midgets!!!
Received via Email 7-16-07 I could not agree more regarding the obvious discrimination against the "little people" by our fire department. Call them midgets, dwarves, or the common but deeply offensive "shrinky stinks", but little people are here to stay. But not ONE is a member of our job. Why are we not recruiting these fine people as soon as they are old enough to join? Obviously there is some concern because it will be so difficult to not have sex with the fine looking little chicks, but we will rise above our carnal deviance to do whats right. We always have, and we always will. I also concur that the little chick on that show about the little family was smoking red hot.
Lets all band together to do what's right.
The Late Johny Cochran
Received via Email 7-16-07 I once got lucky with a midget.
She said "NOW! Give me TEN DIGITS!"
A great piece of ass,
in spite of her gas
and her penchant all night long to fidget.
John Travolta
sensitive male
Received via Email 7-16-07 That midget on that tv show is red hot. But the thought of that little husband of hers hitting that little ass every which way makes me boil. She could have a full size real man any time. All she has to do is knock on my door and look up. Way up.
Snuffy Smith
Received via Email 7-16-07 They say once you go midget, you gotta peel her off with a widget.
Received via Email 7-17-07 What is this midget bullshit? Give me a fat girl anytime.
Received via Email 7-18-07 All night and never hit the same wrinkle twice......what a hoot !!!
Received via Email 7-18-07 Winnie, nice job straightening out that self proclaimed neighborhood activist (read: slumlord) Scott Swift. I noticed that after the city did a little research on sharing the cost of health insurance with employees; it finally occured to them that we're already sucking hind tit. What a revelation... they realized what we've been telling them all along. This city's benefits package -- not so good.
This message was brought to you by one who will tell everyone who will listen, that the city of St. Petersburg sucks! You new guys -- just wait. Hillsborough County Fire Rescue will be hiring again.
FTM FT City
Received via Email 7-19-07 Them's easy pickin's, them big girls.
Received via Email 7-21-07 Something's missing. I could have sworn this message site was longer the last time I looked. Did somebody get a thrashing for not being politically correct or was it prudent that the powers down town didn't realize there were women in the fire stations? Even if there are those who don't appreciate the hefty sized women who either work or visit the stations you must remember that there's always at least one "chubby chaser" at each one. And who doesn't want to help out a guy so lame he daydreams he's hopping that fat broad on the council? I think it was all in fun and someone got their feelings hurt. We're sorry as you can see by the fact that the post has been removed. Next time ladies don't get mad, get even. Post here about the "needle" di-ks you've seen at the station and get back at these guys. Uh-oh, I bet that's politically incorrect too.
TEAM: We're still wondering why this shit keeps getting posted to the contract page.
Received via Email 7-22-07 It wasn't me. 7-17-'07 started it.
Received via Email 7-22-07 You dare call this department's contractural obligation to be fair to all potential candidates "shit?" What could be MORE appropriate for this page? How dare you take such a holier than thou attitude, editor. I said it before and I will certainly say it again: This department needs to be more open minded about ALL qualified individuals. If that means hiring fat chicks and midgets, so be it. If they turn out to be hotties looking for some nasty firefighter on firefighter action, who are you to judge? Bring on those freaky little (or big) mamas. Even chicks that belong in the carnival deserve some rough adult action now and then. That's what I say. Call me open minded.
TEAM: We're still wondering why this shit keeps getting posted to the contract page.
Received via Email 7-22-07 ROFLMFFAO
Received via Email 7-22-07 Editor, you have the power. Move it to the Bullshit page where it belongs.
TEAM: The man behind the curtain thinks 'this' grape dies with the vine.
Received via Email 7-22-07 I need to work on my off days at Sunstar to make ends meet. Please let me know when you need me to work the political season.
In the rear.
(with the gear)
TEAM: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..... {laughing at the first part, of course}
Received via Email 7-22-07 That --- me... --- doesn't --- hire ---? They --- doing --- with --- fat --- thing, ---.
TEAM: We were hoping for more contract related content, here on the contract page. Since it was another fat chick thing, we were a bit tired and only had the strength to post 50% of it. Maybe next week.
Received via Email 7-24-07 Any medics in here have any concern about the new EMS contract with the county?
Received via Email 7-25-07 You need to work at DeathStar to make ends meet? Perhaps if you worked at making this a more profitable place to work, you wouldn't have to work for a third service. If you really want something to do, start writing checks to the politicians that the union supports. The first guy that needs to go is Herb Polson. He's a big time city insider and a big time, anti-Local 747, dick. Bob Kersteen has decided to run against him. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see our union back him. When your write your check(s), make many of them out to the same dude at $10 a pop with your name and title on them. They'll get the picture. Winnie's brother is running in one of the races, too.
TEAM: Thanks Bro'/Sis. We updated the "2007 Vote" page with the names of those running in the September race.
Received via Email 7-25-07 When is the Union going to have a sit-down with all the candidates? I would like to know which ones we are backing this time around.
Received via Email 7-27-07 Remember this name; Jamie Bennett. We should be seeing that name a lot in the near future. A two time winner of his district elections for the council seat and headed for a third. Then after that a run for the mayor's office. NOw would be a good time to at least give this guy a little extra consideration. He's obviously a favorite of the public he represents and even though there are two other people running against him he's by far already the favorite. There's a lot of hands being played close to the vest right now and I'm fairly sure if this guy wins again we're gonna be dealing with another "Big Bird" for the next decade. Not a pleasant vision of the future.
Let's look at the district one race. There he is. Our buddy Polson. The uninformed newcomer who wants to make the employees contribute more to a pension fund that is unfunded due to previous knuckle draggers on the council failing to see that the funding responsibilities of the city were being handled correctly. Now he wants to shift the onus onto the employees and give the public the impression that the whole thing is so badly flawed there's no way to fix it. Don't you wish that when you can't find the money to pay your house payment you could just kick the payment to the curb and start over? This guy is the second biggest threat to any future improvements to the current fire and police pensions in this city. Take my word for it. He's not a big boy now but will be bucking for top dog on the council before it's over.
As you know I have never believed political action will result in anything but frustration. But it would appear that the Local is going to try it again. There's two things that need to be foremost in our minds. Get our people elected and work to see that the others don't get elected. DO NOT back the popular vote getter thinking that because you supported him or her that they'll reciprocate when it comes to benefits. They won't. Just to be on the winning team is folly. It will get us nowhere. They won't know your name. The only way you can get something back from political action is to make the candidate owes you. We have to be the major reason he or she got elected. Talk is cheap. And there's plenty of liars in St. Petersburg. If you can't endorse a person on his or her platform don't endorse anyone at all. Save your money. Instead work to get the person who's gonna be against us defeated. There's going to be races where none of the candidates will meet our needs. If so, just move on. Don't finance a winner who will turn on you. Hopefully we haven't forgotten the screw job we got from "Big Bird". We're still waiting for him to make good on his word. Like THAT'S gonna happen.
It should be pretty obvious to all that this year will be a very difficult year to get anyone elected who has the public employees behind them. Endorsements by fire and police unions will be seen as a disregard for the poor people who are having to manage on fixed incomes and skyrocketing insurance premiums. Candidates are gonna be campaigning to "hold the line" against increased costs from taxes and services. This shouldn't come as a surprise at all. So it will be very difficult to take a high profile stance in favor of ANY candidate. We, in all actuality, could very well be the kiss of death that takes down a good man or woman. Could happen. Remember after all the bad press we got from the impasse hearing we aren't the fair haired people by a long shot. And we need to think accordingly. This may not even BE the year to get overly involved politically based on the financial climate and the not so glowing list of people who are running. The big push should be to stop the snowball effect surrounding Jamie Bennett. He's got his stooge Chris Kelly running for his seat at the same time. If Bennett loses he doesn't give a crap because he has Chris Kelly in the wings to help him in 2009 in his bid for mayor. Bennett says he wants to run to gain "recognition" so that he can run for mayor in 2009. And Chris Kelly will be right there beating the drum. Neither of these guys are anything but potential trouble for us. If either of these people get elected it's not gonna be beneficial to us at all.
Fraternally,
Dick Tully
Past President Local 747, IAFF
Received via Email 7-27-07 I think Dick just used up all my laptops pixels.
Received via Email 7-28-07 I sincerely apologize for that. (grin)
Dick
Received via Email 7-28-07 I guess we're in for more of the same ol' shit sandwich around here. I seem to remember reading a memo that stated that we were going to start negotiating for a mult-year contract, starting in mid July. I just looked at my calendar. Ooops! I don't know about you guys, but every time I ride by the Union hall, there's somebody there to answer the telephone, so I'm guessing WE'RE CHASING THEM CUZ WE'RE PRETTY EASILY FOUND!
Untrustworthy Scumbag 'Tent City Politicians'.
Received via Email 8-13-07 If anyone is reading this that actually has any influence on the contract beyond just whining and mopeing I would like to say, and I say this as an EMT, that it is probably time that we took paramedic pay to another level. That level should probably be somewhere between lieutenant and captain, probably about half way even though captain pay would make more sense. I don't think I even need to explain why beyond the obvious work load and educational requirements that the job requires. Ever hear of a lieutenant or a captain getting out of THOSE jobs because of stress?
Can anyone provide a "why not" besides the usual "because that's how WE have always done it?" Didn't think so. Now lets make it happen.
Received via Email 8-14-07 I do not think money is the factor. Yes it might help but if you are stressed running 2 calls at #2 then there is a problem. You do not see the older medics bailey, molino, murray, westphal, or the other ones I missed complaining about stress. It is these new panzie ass metro sexuals that are complaining.
Received via Email 8-14-07 Remember......there's a contract meeting on Wednesday.
Received via Email 8-14-07 Money is not a factor? Hello? Isn't that why we pay paramedics more in the first place? Isn't that why most people try to get promoted? Isn't that why we try to improve our pension? It's about money. Take paramedic pay up to starting captain pay and see how much easier it is to retain and hire medics.
Don't think money is the factor.... what a moronic thing to say. Also, Bailey, Molino, Murray and Westphal are the Gods of ems for sticking it out so long.
Received via Email 8-14-07 THAT IS WHY MONEY IS NOT A FACTOR. Because of the ems gods.
Received via Email 8-15-07 I don't know if my opinion counts but I wholeheartedly believe that money is a factor.
Your Pal,
David Fraser
Received via Email 8-18-07 hey what was a certain chief doing at city hall the other morning for a long time?
Received via Email 8-18-07 We don't know. Apparently YOU were there. Why don't you tell us?
Something firefighters should hear from NYFD
Received via Email 8-18-07 no I wasnt there drove by on a call and then another and he was still there.
Received via Email 8-19-07 Hey mr. webmaster. How come you didn't post the announcement for the last pay raise at the top of this page?
TEAM: Where do we start? The raise was barely befitting that of the non-public safety employees in this city. It sucked. It included no COLA. There were no changes in O/T, etc... Generally, we were uninspired and couldn't find the words (or the time) to make an announcement that represented nothing that we'd worked for, but rather, was the result of pressure applied to council members by the mayor and the League of Cities zombies in human relations. If you're interested, the numbers are listed on this page - http://usvsthem.homestead.com/payfigures.html If you're a short timer here, there are better cities to work for. Great Fire Department. Sorry city to work for. It's very anti-labor. FTM
Suntan Superman
Received via Email 8-20-07 I wondered where all my SPF45 suntan lotion went. No, I don't want it back.
Received via Email 8-20-07 This is why nobody does shit for the union. A guy steps up to run and gets beat down. It does not matter who the president is. The city sucks and will not give up anything.
Received via Email 8-21-07 For the one who made the comment about needing a change of president because Winnie bangs on the table, I suspect - No, I KNOW that you don't know what you're talking about. If you've ever been to one of OUR negotiations meetings, you'll find our side better prepared and always ready to adapt to changes. (Their side doesn't negotiate, they just show up to muddy the waters.) That doesn't mean that we'll say YES to everything just so that we can say that we're making progress. We've been down that road before and everyone's happy to see movement until we end up in the same position come October where the pay article is singed off and nothing else. That talking out of your ass thing is in direct opposition to talking out of your mouth for obvious reasons.
Received via Email 8-21-07
Our lesson learned
Let it burn.
Fix our pension,
You get our attention.
You bring the COLA,
We'll bring the beer.
When Uhuru's mumble,
Buildings crumble.
We can use their power,
To raze the White Tower.
The only way to make the tide turn,
Is to respond only...then let it burn.
Things go wrong, things can happen,
Low water pressure, thought I heard a tappin'.
The job gets done, but at a slower pace,
It's a career, not a freakin' race.
They want your sweat, that's nothin' new,
And each of us are forced to do the work of two.
Overworked and underpaid,
Final words on a Firefighter's grave.
We need to stop and keep our senses,
There's no point trying to mend any fences.
It's not going to change any time soon,
Unless we find something radical to do.
Lawlessness and trouble are not our way,
But others with power have had their say.
And now it may be time, to make the worm turn,
And show them what it's like to LET IT BURN !!!
Received via Email 8-21-07 A wise man on this department once said to me, "The problem is we are way too efficient."
Received via Email 8-23-07 I will vote for the first guy to admit that paramedic pay needs to go over top lieutenant. Also, Grammar guy if you read this can you check my spelling for lieutenant? That ones a toughy.
TEAM: "I will vote for the first guy to..." Well, at least didn't say you'd hold your breath until...
Received via Email 8-23-07 A little birdy told me that there may be another member looking to run for the presidency. I say, the more the merrier. It's always better when several good people step up to the plate to run against an incumbent.
Received via Email 8-23-07 3 people in a race can really screw things up. That's how we got Bill Clinton.........TWICE!
Received via Email 8-25-07 Bill Clinton wasn't so bad. Sure he disgraced the nation's highest office by putting his own interests ahead of the nation. So what if he got impeached? Who cares if he taught America's youth that oral sex is not cheating? If it wasn't for Bill, we would not have Hillary. Shit. I forgot the point I was trying to make.
Confused Guy
America's Left Side
Received via Email 8-25-07 If it wasn't for guys like Bill Clinton, I wonder who's poster would be hanging in John Barfield's bedroom.
Received via Email 8-26-07 It is impossible to prove that Bill Clinton is not the Anti-Christ. Let's not forget that.
Received via Email 8-26-07 He slaps the ham to that poster six times a day.
Received via Email 8-28-07 hey 8/25#2, its a poster of youe wife,and Mom..
Received via Email 8-28-07 You're a moron with ADD.
Your Mentor,
Grammar Guy
Received via Email 8-28-07 It is possible to prove GW Bush is Satan! Look at his middle eastern Armageddon! Watch as another of his tainted administration falls into the depths! And we impeached Clinton for a BJ? What the hell??
Received via Email 8-29-07 We impeached Clinton for perjury and President Bush is keeping terrorists in the middle east and off our streets. Anything else you don't understand you liberal scumbag?
Received via Email 8-29-07 Get your facts straight. He wasn't impeached for getting a BJ. It was because he bold faced lied to a grand jury. Big difference.
Received via Email 8-29-07 Oh shit, here we go. The ultimate us vs. them: politics. Before it gets out of hand, let's agree on some ground rules.
Rule #1. Republicans love America and believe that every member of society should do their part to help everyone else. This is accomplished by shared responsibility, law and order, family values, and as little government as possible.
Rule #2. Democrats don't want to work or take responsibility. They want a huge government that will support them from cradle to grave and they want to complain about everything that hard working people do to make this country a better place. When they complain so much that everyone is offended and progress comes to a halt, they call it freedom of speech. Also, they claim that they love their country but they really hate America, America's wealthy, America's minorities, America's military, and every leader that wants them to work.
Once we all agree on these two simple rules, I believe it will help to keep the discussions in here regarding politics friendly, even keeled, and progressive.
Thanks,
Abraham Lincoln
I did what I could.
Received via Email 8-30-07 Assuming it is really him, it's sure nice to a see a true American like Abraham Lincoln putting his two cents in. Thank you Mr. Lincoln for delivering your message straight and true. I think I can speak on behalf of the entire department when I say that we all completely agree with your unvarnished yet beautifully crafted words to live by.
God Bless America!
Eight Alpha
Received via Email 8-30-07
A History Lesson
Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.
The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
1) Liberals, and
2) Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to barbecue at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly barbecues and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.
Some of these Liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as Girliemen.
Some noteworthy Liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided.
Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.
Modern Liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.
Another interesting evolutionary side note: most Liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are Liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher bat too.
Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumber-jacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living.
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the Liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.
Here ends today's lesson in world history: It should be noted that a Liberal will most likely have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more Liberals just to piss them off.
Received via Email 8-30-07 And you think I use up pixels.........
Dick
Received via Email 8-30-07 I am sick of those liberal sons of bitches drinking all the beer and never buying a round with their own money. All except for Jon Barfield who is an old friend of mine even though I would never ever consider going to his barber.
Dave
Received via Email 8-30-07 He has to run one more batch to that Clinton poster before he writes a response.
Received via Email 8-30-07 All I have to say is look at your hair history...I still have pics...I'll buy you a round, as long as you keep your feet, and fingers out of my bathroom stall!
John
TEAM: And who's inviting Barney Frank?
Received via Email 8-31-07 It is close to pathetic, how you poor simple minded, blinder wearing conservatives,can't see the real world. Yeah that's you. Your party,and President is sinking so fast, maybe you should consider becoming a libertarian? Are you going to keep on corn holing congressional pages, or employing male prostitutes? You guys corner the market in hypocrisy. It is truly ashamed. You hate almost anything that is not white, god fearing, gun totting. Get the point here? It is time for you all, (not just the politicians) to come out of the closet! Shame on your free throwing insults, when you can't control your republicans. Who's going to jump ship next from the dubya comedy show? I say his girl Condi is the next to realize she ain't his house girl.
Received via Email 8-31-07 Well, that SOB Newton was on the tele again tonight. Did you see him? You had to, since I saw only the three executive officers there I assumed you all were home watchin the city council tentatively adopt the budget for the coming year like I did. Once again he stood before our governing body and brought to their attention we are at the bargaining table. Then one of our elected officials had the nerve to try to insinuate that what was being said was inappropriate to be discussing in the public meeting. The Cities attorney said otherwise though since nothing was discussed that was not already presented to the cities negotiator and was therefore public records. Then the crappie conditions we endure at firefightin 8 were brought to light. Can you believe it? SOB Newton had the gall to tell the council and the Mayor that it is a hell hole that needs to be addressed NOW!!!! The best answer the Mayor could spew is that there is money in the 2008 budget to replace the pig sty. I hope you brothers and sisters can continue to suffer from the respiratory problems, swollen eyes and the scratchy throats a little longer because we all know that a city building doesn't go up overnight. But the best was yet to come. All throughout tonight's hearing, whenever someone from the council or one of the citizens posed a special question about a certain city department, someone that had something to do with that department would come out from behind that curtain to address the issue. EXCEPT.....for when SOB Newton was bringing forth the shortcomings of the FD. Chief Large was there but I guess he didn't get the curtain call to come forth, so the council is still in the dark. But I guess the highlight of the night was in the fact, that our council is still torn up over the fact that they are discontinuing the welfare programs for the special needs and the Arts programs. That is they were going to cut the funding totally until someone discovered there was an extra $500 K sitting around that somehow missed the income report so that is now back in the arts budget. Well now there is a move afoot to somehow find yet another $500 K to add to this. Not one time tonight was there ANY mention for more Firefighters, cops, or bringing back any of the workers that the city let go just 1 month ago. So you can see where we stand. This city would rather have $50,000 piles of art work then to make it possible for a city employee to make a decent wage for himself and his family. Go figure...and lets see if we can keep that SOB Newton from confronting the Council and trying to make them see the light.
TEAM: Just look at the top of the home page. Finding money for every 'feel good' pet project is a mandate in this city. Great report, Bro'/Sis. Thanks for taking the time to give us your feedback. Oh... and we did get 'every' copy of your report for 'every' one of our web pages. It's late and our copy and paste key is falling apart.
Received via Email 8-31-07 "Then one of our elected officials had the nerve to try to insinuate that what was being said was inappropriate to be discussing in the public meeting."
Brother, that's exactly why you bring this stuff up in a public forum. City council has ample opportunity to quit listening to the lifer's in the anti-human relations office and grant us some parity with our contemporaries across the bay. Very few outside of our principle officers have had the balls to go before council to make our case for us. Mike Riley, Jon Pearl and Rick Pauley (before he was elected to office) are the only examples of members that I can recall that have shown up to face these people who try their best to pretend that if they ignore us long enough that we'll go away. Thanks, Winnie, Rick and Billy for speaking when we can't, won't or are too lazy to pay attention.
Received via Email 8-31-07 Gee wiz John, you didn't have to get so personal.Dave
Received via Email 8-31-07 Received via Email 8-30-07 He has to run one more batch to that Clinton poster before he writes a response.
Whoever you are, I must really make your day; I mean visions of me doing what your one handedly have mastered...lol. Stop your baby ass games, and name yourself. Or are YOU too big of a coward? I guess spending all of your 2 days off in front of the computer has melted your imagination. It took me a while to see your BS (this should have been on that page WebMasater). because, I have a life. What's your excuse? Please call me. JB
Received via Email 8-31-07 2 8/31,#2.. Is it me, or do not like Winnie? ( Is that RL, of RF?)*Keep them on their toes Winnie!
TEAM: We're taking it as tongue and cheek, Bro'/Sis.
Received via Email 8-31-07 Auu Gee dave, i was just kiddin...Go You Wild Sparten.JB
Received via Email 8-31-07 Back the troops or support administrations lies and selfish ambitions. Choose your upcoming union president wisely! The proof is in the pudding.
Received via Email 9-04-07 (Less than a month to go!)
Seminole firefighters may pay more into city pension fund
By BOB McCLURE
Article published on Wednesday, July 18, 2007
SEMINOLE – Beginning in October, city firefighters will be paying a little more into their pension fund if an amendment to the most recent collective bargaining agreement is approved by the City Council.
City Manager Frank Edmunds explained the change to city councilors during a workshop July 10 in preparation of a formal vote July 24.
Edmunds said City Council approved a three-year collective bargaining agreement with IAFF Local 2896 in early 2005 and part of the agreement was to amend a city ordinance that affects pension benefit enhancements as part of “total compensation” before Oct. 1, 2008.
The enhancements are the addition of a “25 and out” benefit allowing firefighters to retire after 25 years of service and a “W-2” pension benefit that will expand the retirement benefit calculation.
In return for the added pension enhancements by the city, the firefighters agreed to increase their personal contribution each pay period from 7 to 8 percent.
The purpose of the enhancements was to bring the pension plan up to the levels of other comparable plans available.
“The pension plan is in a much better position than it was five years ago,” Edmunds said.
The city’s match into the pension fund has been as high as 34 percent in the past and was 25 percent in fiscal year 2007. In fiscal year 2008 it will drop to 19 percent, Edmunds said.
Article published on Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Received via Email 9-05-07 Yup, even little ole Seminole has a greater pension plan this us. St Pete will remain last as long as we have a mayor who gives a rat about us and a chief who's only goal is to kiss his ass and make the mayor happy.
TEAM: We were watching the budget hearing at the city's online TV link (top of the home page) and when Winnie brought up the fact that they were setting the millage rate without us having negotiated a contract yet. The mayor said that "there isn't anyone (talking about himself) that takes public safety more seriously!"
Received via Email 9-06-07 New Tactic. Try and guess where this quote came from;
"As it was explained to me, the purpose of getting a one year contract is to settle on pay and minor enhancements, but hold off on any long term benefits (pension/sick leave payout/medical/etc) until the City is able to determine what will happen early next year as a result of the property tax reform vote.
I have to say that this has to be one of the smartest approaches the union has ever taken in negotiations. I know you guys don't hear it often ... Thank You for what you do and good luck at the table."
Received via Email 9-06-07 To 9/5 TEAM comments. It seems public safety according to the attorney (big bird) comes in the form of buying more palm trees for city beautification instead of hiring more firefighters and providing better equipment for us to use. Public safety serious, yeah right ! If it looks and talks like a liar, must be an attorney. Typical!
TEAM: Try this one: MyFox
Received via Email 9-07-07 Holy shit. Good luck to Bryans family. Now, he do we fill the slot with a fire friendly member?
Received via Email 9-07-07 Bryan is dead? Isn't he the asshole that allegedly called us lazy? I'll tell you what's lazy: Starting your lawnmower in the garage and not getting up and opening the door. Now THAT is lazy.
Received via Email 9-07-07 I don't want to say Councilman Bryan is guilty, but he was last seen in his white Bronco trying to put on an undersized glove.
Received via Email 9-07-07 Not that I want to speak bad of the dead, but how did a rotten daughter fu**ing piece of shit like him get in a position of trust over the fire and police departments?
Received via Email 9-08-07 It's reassuring to find out that the future of our careers and our families was in the hands of a pedophile monster asshole like Bryan. And he is one of big birds top men. Well, WAS one of them.
Received via Email 9-08-07 They should have known something was up with Bryan when he adopted his daughters and wrote on the application form "the sexier the better."
Received via Email 9-08-07 Good work councilman. This should only set back the adoption industry 100 years or so.
Received via Email 9-08-07 I guess the story has a happy ending. It's just a shame that suicide by carbon monoxide isn't more painful. At least society has one less evil ass pedophile walking the streets.
Received via Email 9-08-07 I heard the tipping point came when the Us vs Them staff turned state's evidence on him. Seems he tried to rape us, too!
TEAM: We try.
Received via Email 9-08-07 Its really sad that the Mayor said it was a sad day in st pete, because Bryan resigned. It is a happy day. We got rid of some dirt and now can have society feel a little safer. What about the poor little girls. Then the other council member later on the news saying she felt sorry for him (Bryan) he must of been troubled! Are your friggin kidding me ?? He did what he did to those inocent little girls and she feels bad for him ? What a bunch of screwed up people we have running this city. We need a whole new regime that will take St Pete back for the good, and remove this corrupt bunch of greedy self serving losers!!
Received via Email 9-08-07 Look on the bright side: Now we can recycle all those old Michael Jackson jokes. Like this one; When does Councilman Bryan go to bed? When the big hand touches the little hand! Hahahaa! That's funny stuff.
Trust me, that child fu**er's death is going to create lots of laughs! I agree, it is terrible about his daughters, but I don't see a conflict with being able to feel bad for The Evil Councilman Bryan's family and laughing at his scumbag ass as he surely burns in hell.
Come on! Lighten up! Here's another one for you: What does John Bryan have in common with Dr. Spock? They both know how to rear children. Get it? Now THAT's funny.
Okay, okay. One more little jewel before I go. Here it is. What does John Bryan have in common with a PS2? They both get turned on by little girls. Okay, one more than I really should go. How can you tell when there is a party at John Bryan's house? When the driveway is full of tricycles.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Shecky Firestein
Why did John Bryan go to Walmart? He heard that girls pants were half off. Good night everybody!
Received via Email 9-08-07 Mr. Bryan. A turd in a suit.
Received via Email 9-09-07 I would rather work for the park or seminole anyday of the week before st pete.
Received via Email 9-10-07 Hey asshole of 9/09/07-#2 Talk is cheap. Get off your ass next time they post openings at either one of the places you seem to think are better and go beg THEM for a job. In fact why don't you see if they have an openings for a whiner in Tampa and Clearwater too? Just get the hell of THIS department.
Received via Email 9-10-07 Ah- the brotherhood. It warms the heart, doesn't it?
Received via Email 9-10-07 I am loving them Michael Jackson jokes! Keep em' coming, I hate that fu**stick!
Received via Email 9-11-07 Ref the Park or Seminole, We are currently hiring in the Park so come on down and apply, of course you will spend most of your day running calls in Lealman or Sta 13's area. go figure.
Received via Email 9-12-07 1st 9/11, at least PP has a fire chief that will support and back the crews even when it comes to pay, pension, and work hours. SPFR gets less than the scraps from a city adminstration and a bunch of kiss ass chiefs, that would rather spend the citizens money, funding palm trees and paying worthless council members too much money.
Received via Email 9-17-07 When I was married to Michael Jackson I had the unfortunate opportunity to see him naked once. Gross.
Lisa Marie Presley
Received via Email 9-21-07 You guys want John Bryan back? He is trying to take this place over and driving us all nuts. He keeps asking where all the children are. We just laugh and say "hey asshole, there are no kids here-- We don't even get HBO. Oh, how we laugh. Any who, let me know if you want him. I will consider tradeseys. I dont know what we did to deserve this fu**head.
Lucifer
Hell
By the way, it only took a few hours to teach him how to take a fist. Just so you know.
TEAM: Thanks Lu. "We can call you 'Lu' can't we?" Say... have a need for a dude named Trujillo down there?
Received via Email 9-24-07 Don't forget the paramedics, sounds like you have with the pay proposal as I understand it, the emt's are the ones benefiting this time
Received via Email 9-24-07 EMT pay is going up? How about to LT. pay? Then add about 5 grand for paramedic pay. Sounds about right. I am in.
Received via Email 9-26-07 10 grand for medic pay. They will still be paid way less than a nurse. But its a start.
Received via Email 9-26-07 Lt pay plus 5K? Sounds decent. Of course, then where do paramedics go when they have had enough of working for a living and want to lounge around on firetrucks?
Received via Email 9-27-07 Congrats Winnie.
Received via Email 9-27-07 Yes, Congrats to Winnie. Now how about a contract within a year of its due date?
Received via Email 9-27-07 Just in case you were 1 of the 303 members that DID NOT attend Thursday's negotiations meeting, Karen Richardson was asked three direct questions and She answered.
1. Have you been Authorized to bring any articles pertaining to Financials. NO.
2. Have you been Authorized to bring any articles pertaining to Financials to any other bargaining unit in St. Petersburg. NO.
3 Have you brought any articles pertaining to Financials to any other bargaining unit in St. Petersburg. NO.
Three questions and three NO answers. Explain to me again how its the Union's fault for dragging on this process?
Received via Email 9-28-07 Some of us were on duty. So yes I was 1 of the 303 that did not attend you dickhead. We were so quick to call around with the results of the election but never any calls about the negotiations.
Received via Email 9-28-07 Ray said that sometimes you just got to go with a winner. So I did. Thanks Ray.
Received via Email 9-28-07 Question. Is it better to work at HQ and suck eggs or to have egg on your face? Just asking. All of us who aren't writing new policies to f**k with the firefighters wanna know. Oh, sorry about your loss Ray. Next time pick a better campaign crew than the white shirts at the mfs. Their credibility is about shot.
Received via Email 9-28-07 To those of you that were on duty Thursday, On Duty IS NOT an excuse. Why? Because we both know that there are opportunities that allow you to attend events that you feel are important to you. So, how should I put this, DICKHEAD, it is obvious that this, (your future) is not important to you. Also, have you ever looked at your IAFF747.com web site? Or called the information line? Both of those places will enable you to keep current with events, dates, and times. If that fails ask someone else, maybe they know something you don't. So, DICKHEAD go cover your self with a greasy prophylactic and continue to hide your head in a dark tunnel somewhere.
Received via Email 9-28-07 Answer: I agree with the egg thing but I'd think it would be pretty cool to stand outside HQ with a sandwich board that reads: It's too bad that you don't have any friends on the job excpet the one's you go to lunch with. If you don't have a sandwich board, just bring a buddy and point talk under your breath.
PS: Score 1 for the good guys. I hear that within minutes of HQ finding out that Winnie won the election, the red phone in mayor Dick's office was ringing.
Received via Email 9-28-07 Hold 'da phones.... If the city dont have any $$$'s for us to discuss, then why did we go? I cant believe Winnie can continuely keep Karen from advancing at the table. How does he do it?
TEAM: We don't have an answer for your question, but it is a documented fact that Local 747 has NEVER turned the city away from the table by our not being ready or prepared to negotiate. We've also have NEVER walked away from the table (remember the SPC Library incident?) thinking 'we' were done for the day, either.
Received via Email 9-28-07 Apparently dickhead, you have not seen the books. There was no time and no one wants to swap for 2 or 3 hours. So it was not for a lack of trying.
Received via Email 9-28-07 My question is, why the hell do we meet with someone from the city (Karen) that has absolutely no negotiating power? This lady is essentially a paper carrier. The meetings with her are pointless. Why can't the city bring somebody or bodies to the table that can actually make a decision? Other cities don't seem to have a problem bringing all their decision makers to the bargaining table. And the union gets accused of stonewalling, go figure.
TEAM: Roger that!
Received via Email 9-29-07 What this Dickhead pissin match is sounding like is that NOBODY wants to swap with a B shifter. Well ok B-shifter, what excuse do you have for not helping your Brothers And Sisters at the Informational Picket this past Tuesday (A shift) in St. Pete Beach? If you are 1 of the 2 that were there then I apologise now. But I dont think you was.
Received via Email 9-29-07 Get your facts straight, the negotiations were on a c shift. I was working ot during the picket since I can not get a decent wage here. St pete beach got theirs when will I get mine.
Received via Email 9-29-07 Our Union is still our Union. Thanks Winnie!
Received via Email 9-29-07 Received via Email 9-29-07 Get your facts straight, Wow what a statement...Ok, so your a C-shifter it makes no diff. You are the one that implied that you could not get time off because the book was full...As far as a decent wage, thats why I choose not to work on your plantation and I have no problem living within my means, I know of better paying depts that do pay better, maybe you need to look around, or maybe you need to sell off some of the stuff you obviously cant afford...anyway, When did St. Pete Beach get theirs? Thats why they are picketing. Their contract has been expired for over a year. But thats ok I dont expect you to really have the facts or to know anything about that, but you will have another chance to participate 10/03 during the actual impasse hearing. The bottom line is this, the locals that support themselves and their Brothers and Sisters always seem to have better, than those that dont. I know what I know about the happenings in your department through places like this site and what I hear in the circles I travel in, maybe you need a bigger circle. For now I will let the facts stand on their own.
Received via Email 9-30-07 Sometimes, because of so much being taken care of at the same time, it's difficult to sort through exactly what's going on at any given time. As I understand it we are now negotiating what will be the contract for October, 2007- October, 2008. Is that correct? And up to this point we have signed off on all items except for "Winnie's 21". Is THAT correct? We went to a bargaining meeting on 9/27/07 and asked three questions? Is that correct? There was no further discussion relating to the items at impasse. Is that correct? The union team had nothing to offer in the realm of changes to their demands. Is that correct? Yet there are those who still think the city is the only one stonewalling. Is that correct? If I have missed anything here please enlighten me. It would seem it's SSDD at the bargaining table. Yawn !!!
Received via Email 10-01-07 To Yawn: We're already WAY behind so many other departments in benefits now. Are you saying that we should give up something that we've won in the past to get something that we want now just so we can still be behind? Your idea of negotiating reads like it came from the League of Cities playbook. Oh, and for your information, we ARE willing to give up a % of pay to win a COLA and the city knows it. Personally, I think that's stupid as shit, so that ought to please you! Oh and another thing......... we're the only department in the city WITHOUT a COLA. Yeah......... negotiating is great. We keep giving up more bennies to get what others have already got.
You must be a League of Cities shitbag schmuck.
Received via Email 10-01-07 Today is October first. I bet Ray would have had a contract by now.
The Very VERY last of the Mohicans
Received via Email 10-01-07 To 10-1-07...#1 You still didn't answer my questions. Surely one of the twenty one is a "throw away" demand. Are you saying we should just sit on the negotiations again? That means it'll be a year from now when we get the 2007-08 contract settled and it'll be for 3.5% and a year late in coming. Talk about stupid stubborn. No one is saying we don't deserve a COLA. But that's only one item out of twenty one. It would seem that there could be some movement on one or more of the other twenty that would at least show progress at the table. We've tried the immovable object method for three years now and it's gotten us nowhere. How long do we have to beat this dead horse before we change tactics? Are all of us so blind we can't see what's preventing any forward movement at the table? I can't understand your last statement since "giving up bennies to get what others have already got" is a very confusing sentiment. I think you'd be better off trying to get better bennies by giving up something that's un-doable at this time and move on. But we won't. It's business as usual. Always a year late in getting a contract and then losing money because of the taxes. Again I say it's SSDD at the bargaining table. YAWN !!!
Received via Email 10-01-07 RAy might have us a contract but I'll bet ya it'll be one that's all pay and no bennies. Try ratifying that!
Received via Email 10-01-07 Today is October first. I'll bet Seminole is enjoying their new contract. Pension amount based on total compensation. Once again, St. Petersburg is first at being last!
Received via Email 10-01-07 To 10-1 #3. You've obviously never been to a nego session in the past few years. Nothing's off the table. They've never said "no" to all of those articles. We keep bringing them back because they've never said "no". It's a game of wait and see. No means no and nothing said at all means Jimmy Large's boss is a pussy.
Received via Email 10-02-07 To 10-1-07---#6 ROFLMAO
Received via Email 10-02-07 Tee hee hee tee hee.......... he said the "P" word!
Received via Email 10-02-07 Last union meeting, we talked about the open council seats. I just visited Bill Dudley's website and it looks like this guy's been paying attention:
My Platform
Public Safety
The number one concern with any government entity should be the safety of all its residents. This can only be achieved through diligence and hard work. Our police force is understaffed, overworked, and underpaid. The retention rate is very disturbing. Potential new recruits are looking to other cities after graduating from the police academy. We are presently going through a review of the Police Department by an independent agency. When the review is completed, the city must use this evaluation to develop a realistic approach for making the necessary changes.
The City's Firefighters recently reached a labor impasse with the City. When brought before the City Council, and after a very limited discussion, a Resolution was made and passed (4-3) that in effect gave the Firefighters a 3.5% general wage increase and all other pay provisions to remain as they currently exist. I believe this shows a total disrespect for these first responders and the dedication they have shown the citizens of St. Petersburg. This is the same City Council that in December of 2005 gave themselves a 40% pay increase and the Mayor a 32% increase. The responsibilities of the City Council are important, yet its members do not risk their own lives to benefit the citizens of the city. The pay raises given to our public servants should be proportionate to the jobs they perform, the services they provide and the sacrifices they make. Sadly, as demonstrated by this example, this is not the case. Many of those who serve the citizens of this city are not compensated appropriately.
TEAM: The Union's setting up a date to bring all of the politicians that we're endorsing, in for a meet and greet, in the very near future. Since we've already given the maximum amount to these individuals from our PAC fund, FLAME, it would be a great idea for Local 747 members to make some time for this important event... time to talk with them about your concerns and to make personal donations to each of their campaign fund's.
Received via Email 10-02-07 Everything that's on my pay stub is mine. The city didn't put it there, I earned it. Sick time. Holiday time. Comp time. Overtime. Sick Leave. I think I'm going to cash in some of my holiday time and write a few checks. At least I don't have to support our winner of a mayor. Mayor assHOLE!
Received via Email 10-03-07 Not quite. The sick leave is not yours. Ask the city when you retire. They will tell you.
TEAM: While we're looking into that, we just talked to Donny Masters and he said...
Received via Email 10-04-07 Sick time is insurance and thats it. Its not your time, its the citys.
Received via Email 10-04-07 I agree that sick leave is insurance. And that's why you can get in trouble for abusing it: because it is like insurance fraud. Lieing about being sick when you call in is the same as lieing to Allstate about your insurance claim being worse than it really is. Glad someone else understands that.
Your Buddy,
Mr. Goody Two Shoes
Better than you for almost 20 years.
Received via Email 10-04-07 Insurance? Yeah, insurance that I get a paycheck when I'm sick or hurt. How is it the city's time?
Received via Email 10-04-07 Where is sick leave called insurance in either the Union Contract or the City Personnel Management Handbook? Both of my copies refer to sick leave as just what it implies, sick "leave".
Received via Email 10-04-07 Typical dumbshit thinking. Who is the moron that wrote sick "leave"? What a douche bag way to look at it. Try looking at it this way my system abusing friend: "Sick" leave. With the emphasis on being "sick" you dumbass. Just like "auto" insurance is for your car, and "life" insurance is for the loss of your life. It's really pretty simple, you stupid nutsack. If you get sick, you go on leave. If you are not sick, you don't. "Insurance" is exactly what sick leave is because it "insures" your paycheck while your lazy ass is recovering from you bullshit ailment. We just don't call it insurance because we give it to your brainless ass for free. I can't believe I keep you stupid assholes on the payroll. Screw you. Screw all of you lazy bastards.
Respectfully,
Mayor Baker
Received via Email 10-05-07 I'll put it to you this way, I'm "sick" of coming to work every third day for this bullshit city. I need a break more than once every six weeks. I'm "sick" of the time off list being taken up by extended illness people. I think I'll use some of my "free" insurance and take a little "leave".
Received via Email 10-05-07 Hey. Can anyone give us an idea as to what happened at during the SPB impasse hearing?
Received via Email 10-05-07 I tossed Mr. Goody Two Shoes, salad.
Mr. Goodwrench
Received via Email 10-06-07 If you want to keep it fair, then it should be called Death insurance.
Received via Email 10-06-07 I wonder what the mayor defines as "sick'? I wonder if he realize's what we are mostly sick of is him...
Received via Email 10-06-07 Sick leave abuse is for mutts willing to screw over whoever gets stuck with the mandatory to cover their lazy asses.
Received via Email 10-07-07 first 10/05 you should quit if your so miserable. I am sure our citizens would rather not have you working on them with your sorry ass attitude. Maybe our city admin is not our favorite group right now, but the citizens still are. What good are you going to do for them sitting on your fat ass at home. Buck up boy and get to work. Save your sick leave for a true sick or emergency day you simple minded putz.
Received via Email 10-07-07 I'll put it this way, when you are not physically "sick" but are on sick leave, you are a mutt system abuser that is fu**ing over another firefighter. Capiche?
Received via Email 10-07-07 Am I the only one a little uncomfortable with our union endorsing the presidents brother? I don't think endorsing his opponent would be the answer, but isn't this a race we should consider sitting out? The Times hates us so what would they do with it if they wanted to get nasty? What WILL they do when the time comes?
Jimmy Hoffa
Smelling up this 55 gallon drum something awful
Received via Email 10-07-07 Who is getting screwed over? The last time I checked, there were plenty of people willing to whore themselves out for OT.
Received via Email 10-07-07 Lets not let the city off of the hook for not hiring the needed folks we need to adaquetely staff our vehicles.
Received via Email 10-07-07 To 10-7 #3 We've always taken the high road in this Local and other than our politics, there's no reason for the Times NOT to like us. With that said, can we do much worse? Are we going to try to be our own people or do we always have to genuflect to feel good about ourselves? Some of you don't like the president you've got because he supposedly doesn't schmoose enough with council members, while others believe just the opposite. Here's one potential member of council that will either love us or hate us based on his association with his brother Winnie, so it could go either way.
You're affraid of what the Times is going to think. Some officers are affraid to allow you to be in the rack later than 7:01 because the mayor might walk into the bunk room. Which one's more reality based? Probably the Time's scenario. If the mayor walks in after 0715, I'm rolling over and pulling up the covers.
Received via Email 10-08-07 He's right. We really need the needed people that we need.
Received via Email 10-08-07 Received via Email 10-07-07 Am I the only one a little uncomfortable with our union endorsing the presidents brother?
Hey Jimmy, obviously the 5 team members that sat through 8+ hours of the candidate screening process, had no problem. Also it was mentioned at the last Monthly union meeting with no one in attendance objecting. BTW, President Newton WAS NOT on the screening panel that made the original decision. I guess your an hour late and a month behind again as usual.
Received via Email 10-08-07 3rd 10/7. Oh ! the ex union presidents wife - now ex wife was on council, but thats ok ! Typical Mutt hypocrites. Gotta be a B shifter !!!
Backing Winnie's brother probably won't be as embarrassing as seeing Chief Large endorse this Petroccellie SP? guy who ran for coucil last cycle. He stole from the old folks at his bank and the Po Po hooked his ass up. I wonder if Chief Large's picture is still on his buddie's website?
Received via Email 10-08-07 "Oh ! the ex union presidents wife"
It goes further than that. Our union didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of at the time and we (Rick) "lent' her the money to run her campaign. Her name is also at the top of this page as one of the council members that totally disrespected us by showing us the door and telling us that we needed to bargain at the bargaining table and not with council, but also betrayed us by voting with that asshole insurance man Williams. I remember us pulling his ass out of the fire last election cycle because he couldn't pull in the black vote in his district. And he's black! During impasse, he shoved it up our ass along with that useless Leslie. Fu** 'em both! Oh yeah, we never got our money back from that frigid bitch either.
TEAM: We remember what Williams was going through last cycle and you're right, we did pull his ass out of the polititical fires.
Received via Email 10-08-07 Okay, lesson learned. There is no way that endorsing family members can work against us. Got it.
TEAM: Great come back!
Received via Email 10-09-07 Don't the cops have one of their brother running for a seat?
Received via Email 10-14-07 To everyone in the Union who made an appearance at the Block Party, yesterday, (both on duty and off) you need to be thanked. We served-up 1500 hot dogs; nacho's with cheese, and a smile. We got to schmoose with the politicians and more importantly, they got to schmoose with neighborhood hero's --- us! We joked with them and took some pot shots at them too. The gave as well as they got. We all had a good time and by all appearances (and the "Thank you Fire Fighters!") it was a huge success. For those of you who missed out, there will be many chances in the near future to lend a hand with the direction that your future takes.
Received via Email 10-14-07 10-14 #1 Thank you for coming in here and saying something positive.
Received via Email 10-14-07 I heartily agree with 10-14-07, #1 and 10-14-07, #2. It's looks like there is more than one person with intelligence that posts here. The only thing I have to offer today, and you should cut and paste this short thought on your locker door, is; "I'M VERY SORRY GUYS. I GAVE IT MY BEST EFFORT BUT UNFORTUNATELY I WAS OUTVOTED". This statement, or possibly some derivitive of it, is at this time meaningless to most of you but, and I hope I'm wrong, it will become clearer to you as time goes by. Take it from me, a professional backstabber and underhanded politician, you will regret your current actions. But there's always hope that times have changed and things will work in your favor. NOT!!!
Been There, Done That
Rev.J.W.Cate
Being two-faced saves money at Halloween
Received via Email 10-20-07 And yet another Tully era unbeliever speaks. Wow I am so glad that I wasn't around to experiance the bull shit attitudes they express today.
Received via Email 10-20-07 I accept the accolades and I'm sure had you been around in the seventies and on the fire department you would have been an asset to someone. While I was never a J.W. Cate fan I must say I cannot take any opposition to the statement(s) made through his spirit. Many months ago I posted a question directed at anyone currently in the union and working at SPF&R. I know some of you don't like to read about what was and who did it so I won't belabor that point. It's interesting to see or hear about the political activities that are being engaged in at the present time. I can almost hear the tap tap tap of the hammers making those yard signs. And for a change I think I've had a small change of heart about the possibility of success in this endeavor. Things look bright. Two of the four candidates have voiced an interest in the firefighters and are looking like our best shot in some time to plead our case before a tiny bit sympathetic city council. For once I'd like to see something positive come from the work you do. This may be the year it happens. Oh, yes, the question. I almost forgot. Here it is; Can anyone show me something positive that has been gotten for this Local through political action? Anybody? How about all you guys with the big mouths that always have all the answers on this site. Wanna step up and tell me? Anything at all. For fifty or more years we've been told that political action is the way to go. I believe that SOMETIMES it can work given the right circumstances. But it's NEVER worked in THIS city. And that's where we are now. Maybe now is the time for US to provide the right circumstances as a prelude to the real challenge that's coming on the horizon.
Now I know we'll have one vote. That's a given. It appears that if a show of hands of those on the side of the firefighters were to be asked for we would have one positive and one who says he's on our side. That's two votes. I'm not sure two votes will be enough to win anything. But that's two more votes than we have now. It's also a bit premature to start counting our chickens. These candidates have to win for us to succeed. I said a while back that I thought the situation with the council would not change until the mayor's race was over. I haven't changed my thinking one bit. I think that's a viable thought since at the present time the current mayor is still pulling the strings at the council level. We're starting on the right foot by getting two of the four seats up for election on our side if they win the election. But everyone should realize that the biggest challenge that we have is to be the contributing factor that gets the next mayor elected. Failure at that level will just mean business as usual and that cannot be allowed to happen.
Congratulations to Winnie on being elected President. And I'd like to say thank you to Bill Mott for the outstanding job he does. They're both to be appreciated and supported now more that at any other time. The members of 747 should be proud of the leadership and even if I don't agree with the tactics at times I have never doubted the integrity. I know you don't like the term "maybe next year". Well this is "next year". And if we don't soon prove that we can win at political action then we will always be waiting for "next year". The most important thing we can do this time is to make sure anyone who runs for office in this city NEEDS the endorsement of the firefighters. That's never been done. Our endorsement doesn't mean shit. Everyone who ever got elected didn't need it. Most didn't have it. Think about that. We have to be the overwhelming reason the person wins the election. Until that can be accomplished we'll always be meaningless.
Fraternally,
Dick Tully
P.S. Sorry for taking up so many pixels. Just wanted to apologize in advance.
Received via Email 10-22-07 Screw you. Screw ALL of you sorry bastards!
Chief Skip
Retired, Dumbass
Received via Email 10-23-07 "Retired, Dumbass"
Retired DC - current and past dumbass!
Received via Email 10-23-07 Whatever, asshole. Up yours.
Chief Skip
Retired but still miserable
Received via Email 10-24-07 I know Chief Skip. It's Mr. Chief Piks to you. And he wouldn't waste his time posting here. That's not Chief Skip. But even if it was he was far from a dumbass. He retired a District Chief. What do you suppose you're going to retire as dumbass? And he laughs all the way to the bank. I don't think that's in YOUR future......dumbass.
Received via Email 10-24-07 Chief Skip does not post here because he can't even spell his own name. And anyone that thinks that retiring as a DC is proof that you are not a dumbass probably has a bad case of low self esteem and is the first to stand when the DC walks in the room so he can scurry over and offer him a hand job. If your whole life revolves around a promotion or two for a few grand a year, you are probably setting your sights way too low. Firefighting isn't a life, it's a job. A great job, but still a job. Most firefighters work for free. Your life should be your family. Get your priorities straight, suckass. Try having sex with a woman and stop blowing retired chiefs. We only have to work 10 days a month. Try to live the best parts of your life on the other 20.
George Lewis
(yes, I really did it)
Received via Email 10-25-07 Hi Georgie,
How's everything in solitary? Is some big-ass black guy strokin' the back of your head and whispering "Who's your daddy?" in your ear? Has your butt hole healed yet? LOL I bet your knees are well calloused from making friends at the job you're in now. You little bitch. Excuse me while I respond to a guy using your name to make a name for himself. I read your post dumbass and see that you think "Firefighting isn't a life, it's a job." Dumbass you couldn't be farther from the truth. But I'll bet if you're single you don't hesitate to tell the ladies that you're a firefighter. And if you're married I'll bet you can't wait to get out with your friends and tell them what a dangerous profession your big shot ass is in. And I'll bet you NEVER say " but it's just a job". If it's just a job to you maybe you're in the wrong profession. In fact I know you're in the wrong profession. Stop and think. If it's just a job why are you willing to spend thirty years trying to earn a pension? A pension that you never stop bitching about. If it's just a job why are there so many past and present members of the fire service who are proud of the fact that they do it? I'll tell you why. Because to most who work here it's a career. A word that you never learned the meaning of. When you spend that much time at the SAME job it becomes a career. Now I know in today's watered down, hooray for me and screw you society people like you are part of the breed that have to have everything given to you without working for it. If you actually WORKED in the fire service you'd know what I'm talking about. So if you don't think you can make a career out of fire fighting maybe you'd do better in some other field. One that doesn't require much intelligence and you can transfer from one store to the other...like 7-11 or Publix. Please leave the fire service to the men and as soon as you can find a different so called "job", go there. Those of us who consider serving in this profession are sick of carrying you and all those who think like you. Oh, by the way. While you were scrambling around in that twelve year old mentality you're burdened with, trying to find something witty and derogatory to say about DC's you totally missed the fact that there was humor in the post. You almost got it though. Unfortunately you thought it was a spelling error. See what I mean? You aren't smart enough to work here. Now go watch TV......dumbass.
Received via Email 10-25-07 10/24 #4: Here is a little tip for you. If you leave the firehouse in a vehicle that is covered with IAFF logos and bumper stickers that say shit like "I work where the devil dances," and then go home to a house where your lamps are made out of fire extinguishers and you have a "Backdraft" movie poster in your living room, then you are probably a little ate up with yourself and your job. It really is just a job. That doesn't mean you can't love it, but your life should have more to it than what you do for a living. Like I said before-- Most firefighters are volunteers. They save lives AND have a life of their own. You might want to think about getting your own life before you retire some day and realize what you left behind is all you ever had. If you don't believe me, go ask your buddy "Kips" next time you go swallow his sword.
George
P.S. If you think I am in solitary, dumbass, how could I be taking it in the ass? Don't use big words until you look up what they mean.
Received via Email 10-26-07 Well Georgie. most guys who paste the stickers on their car are just trying to avoid a ticket when they do something stupid. And I must admit that the fire extinguishers and the poster are a little over the top. But then there's other things that can be done that are just as sad. It's a personal choice to be proud of your profession. It's also demonstated in different ways. Now I don't know if Piks has all that stuff you describe and frankly I'm wondering how you know all that. That's right. I remember. You're the guy who hung out at the police station on your days off. You were the guy who was the Neighborhood Watch honcho and played cop wannabe. You're the guy who couldn't stand to have women reject you so you killed one when she wasn't in awe of your position in life. It would appear she'd rather screw a black guy than you, dumbass. (It's true, read the book) That really pissed you off didn't it? And believe me, in solitary or not in solitary I firmly believe you like taking it in the ass. But I digress. I know that this mental giant that is posting isn't Georgie. Georgie's smarter that that. One last thing dumbass. I admit that family is extremely important but try and have one without having a profession. If you think professional firefighting is just a job and volunteers save more lives and property you're a fool. Like I said before. Go watch TV, dumbass.
TEAM: It's kinda creepy, huh? The 'real' George, posting here, and all.
Received via Email 10-26-07 WHAT? That bitch screwed a black guy? Shit. Shit shit shit. Nobody told me. I guess THATS why they don't let us read in here. Thanks for the info. Now if you will please excuse me I have to shank a dude to help vent off some of this rage.
George
I still love Kips, and he still loves me. Oh, how he loves me. Also, the sticker on my cell wall says "Firefighters do it til' she stops moving" I got it at the prison gift shop.
Received via Email 10-26-07 Statistically speaking if 75% of all firefighters are volunteers doesn't it stand to reason that they would probably save more lives based on the numbers alone? You don't got to be no rocket surgeon to figure that out.
Popeye
Received via Email 10-26-07 Georgie I have to say you're a sick fu**er. But I love your sense of humor. Now go watch TV...dumbass.
Received via Email 10-26-07 No just a sailor man.
Received via Email 10-28-07 Hi SPFD I mean SPFR BUDDIES!
Now that I have found this website I hope you good people don't mind if I pop in from time to time. I mean, between cornholings and all.
Thanks. I love you all, except for the three or four that I meant to kill before I came to the farm.
George
P.S. I peed on your Duck Truck. HAR HAR HAR HARDEE HAR HARHoo wee, That was what we call a Starke County good old belly laugh
Shank em' if you got em'!
Received via Email 10-28-07 I need to get something off my chest. No, I am not talking about a flesh eating bacteria or a venereal wart created by gay rape, I am talking about back when I was on the job how I got some of you guys to put up your houses and other assets to help fund my bond so that I could be free to walk the streets and kill other people during my trial. I would just like to say that you guys are the biggest bunch of blindly trusting stupid fu**ers ever. You shit for brains morons are lucky I didn't make a run for Mexico like I should have. Screw you stupid fu**ers. I love you all. Oh, how I love you. Please don't let my rough fu**ing talk offend you. That's how we talk here in the big house. Also, I would like to.... YEEOOOOOWWWCH!! Shit. Pant. Gasp. Sorry about that, I just got fu**ed in the can. You never really get used to that. Ouch! Anyway, what was I saying. I forget. Okay I should go now anyway. On Sundays I bl*w guys for cigarettes. Next time I visit I will tell you who I think the stupidest fu**ing firefighter I ever met was! Wanna guess? I love you guys, and often think of some of you when I spank it. Especially you pudgier fellows.
Peace and Love,
George
Received via Email 10-28-07 I never met George, but I heard about him. Did he really do it?
New Guy
Cleaning your messes for half your pay
Received via Email 10-28-07 Volunteers are the backbone of America's fire service. While you clowns have been whining about your pay as you watch cable TV from recliners, SOME of us have been out making a productive living while protecting the lives and property of our neighbors in our spare time. We are all firefighters. The difference is you made the mistake of trying to make a living out of a job that doesn't pay worth a shit. Some of us prefer to work real jobs and save the heroics for our free time. You guys all want something for nothing, I just want to feed my family and keep my town safe. Now that I think about it, you guys all sound like democrats.
Proud Volly.
Received via Email 10-30-07 Leave it to a volly to think the W still has his back..Hey buddie I hear the whistle blowing, park that garbage truck put those hip boots on, and go! Oh wait too late the neighboring paid city Fire Department put it out. Love & Kisses Proud IAFF democrate.
Received via Email 11-02-07 Take it from a volly that knows more about fire than most of you flamers could ever imagine; you guys even whine more than teachers.
Received via Email 11-05-07 Now there's a comparison. Teachers whine more than low paid wanna be firefighters? Go and make me a whopper minus the onion boy!
Received via Email 11-06-07 I like teachers because they are even lazier than the guys in suppression. They make us all seem like over motivated hard workers.
Mr.EMS
Received via Email 11-06-07 Teachers? Is that even a real job? 6 hour days, no weekends or holidays and summers off? And I thought WE had a good schedule.
Received via Email 11-06-07 Teachers make pretty good pay for what it is: A part time babysitting gig. Sign me up.
Received via Email 11-06-07 Don't get me started on teachers. When they start working nights and weekends maybe we can talk about a raise. Until then go play with the kids. Oh, and please don't have sex with them.
Received via Email 11-07-07 Hey Mr. Mayor. Local 747 just stuck it's no.13 boot, squarely up your faggot ass! I hope some of you shitbirds in headquarters voted with the mayor (Except the JW of course. He don't do voting, flag saluting or fighting for his country too well). I always love to gloat amongst lifetime losers. Suck-balls!
Received via Email 11-08-07 I would like to congratulate the members of Local 747 for an outstanding job of being involved in the political activities in this city and finally producing positive results. I’m very proud that the past causes of our failures has been overcome by the current members. Even the Times was forced to give us credit for at least influencing the vote to whatever extent. That’s a first. And I hope it’s a “given” in all future elections.
Is Dick Jager a member of Local 747? I hope so. I think that’s the first time anyone ever got their name associated with a union and the city elections at the same time in a positive manner. And it’s clear the members of the union were active enough to get the attention of the public also. This is a quote from the Times Q&A Board on the internet;
“Gee. I wonder what the next election will bring? Who will be courting the firefighters then? It looks like the citizens trust their judgment, and not that of the goober smootchers of the inner cicle. Anybody seen Kathleen Ford? “
Congratulations should also go out to Winnie for staying the course in the political arena. I know I’m not the poster boy for political activities but I also believe in admitting when I’m wrong. I will no longer react negatively toward the Local’s attempts at political activity.
And now it’s crunch time. Our work is only just starting. It’s not enough to just get a candidate elected. It takes continuous interaction with them now and in the future to prove that we really DID support them and we still DO. We need to stay in touch and help in any way we can to make them confident that we are behind them ALL the time…not just at election time.
Good job brothers and sisters,
Fraternally,
Dick Tully
Received via Email 11-08-07 No idiots hammering teachers obvious benefited from them. Or were you home schooled, and corn holed by your drunk uncle?
Received via Email 11-09-07 11-08-07 No idiots hammering teachers obvious benefited from them. Or were you home schooled, and corn holed by your drunk uncle? <-----Beautiful sentence structure. Looks like you're the one that spent too much study time getting corn-holed.
For the record, it is possible to be pro-teacher but still believe that they basically work a part time job. More power to them. Like I said before, I thought WE had a great schedule until I was reminded about the cake walk existence of teachers. I think about it every time I work a holiday. Or at night. Or a weekend. Or during the summer. And what the hell is an "inservice day" any way?
Their pay would suck if they actually worked all year--- but they don't. Some of us teach our kids for free, but teachers have turned it into a racket. County schools wolf down about half of your property taxes, even if you never had children or quit raising them years ago. And we thought we loved OUR jobs. Teachers are the ones that have got it made.
Received via Email 11-09-07 All that talk about teachers is true. What a bunch of scammers. Sitting behind a desk watching children for 6 hours while waiting for your 3 month long summer vacation. Whoop dee fu**ing doo. Must be tough.
Received via Email 11-10-07 Its no different than an officer sitting behind a desk babysitting grown men.
Received via Email 11-10-07 The sentence structure was for your close to ignorance level Ass licker. Teachers may not run into burning buildings. They have to deal with the p.o.s. parents, and bad kids they produced, and can't even swat their ass? They deserve more than they get, if you think its a part time job butt munch, then I suggest you carry your probably over weight self to any local public school, and shadow a teacher. From the 1-2 hours they are there before the students, until they leave 1-2 hours after the rug rats go home..So your kids are there say 6 hours, they are there at least 10 hours a day. No more planning periods they have to teach extra fcat BS, and still cover the rest of required curriculum. I'd give more of my tax dollor if I knew it would help anyones, child, yeah even yours!FTM!
Received via Email 11-10-07 Officer dont sit behind a desk, they sit behind their badge hoping to be real men someday.
Received via Email 11-10-07 I have always agreed with the expression: "Those that can't do, teach".
Received via Email 11-12-07 Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach !!!
Received via Email 11-13-07 Teachers are no different than we are. They are taking what used to be a volunteer job and trying to convince people that it's a real profession. As union people we should support them no matter how big a scam it is. They may be a bunch of useless whiners that could not cut it in the real world, but at least they are UNION useless whiners that can't cut it in the real world. I rest my case.
Thank You,
Jimmy Hoffa
It sure is dark in here
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