"FTM"
"Open Wounds" should be pretty much self explanatory.  These are the stories about injustices that have been heaped upon Brothers and Sisters on the job by those in management who've forgotten what it's like - or more likely were Firefighters in name only while on their quest to a seat in the marble palace.  "F-I-N-O" or Firefighter In Name Only!  MUTT will work too. 
It would seem that some find it easer to hide their head's inside an NFPA 1500 Manual, forsaking the lives and families that we hold dear.
~~~ 

Received via Email 3-2-07  It's so lonely on this page. So very lonely.  Here I sit all by myself.  Oh well, at least I can take comfort in knowing that somewhere  there is a DC firefighter jerking off thinking about me.  At least I have that.
TEAM:  There's always the Chat page...

Received via Email 3-2-07  A hardy congats goes out on the newest player in the "lets f**k with somebody today club."  Seems an A shift DC wasn't able to make it through his annual physical. What? didn't the HQ boys tell him what day the Doctor from hell wasn't there? I guess anyone can be deemed unfit for duty. I wonder how much difference there is between a DC on light duty and a DC on regular duty? I wonder if they will have him doing the mail run first or washing the bunker gear? I am sure James and Dave will be happy to show him the ropes. Maybe he can be one of the secretaries b***h for a week. Wow what a thought, I may have to drop in next week and see how things are going.

Received via Email 3-3-07  Which DC was it?

Received via Email 3-3-07  It goes without saying.  There aren't many Tom Kitchen's left on the job in the DC's office and fewer trying to be like him when they get there!  For all the beating some of these guys take, you'd swear that they're deaf, dumb and blind.  Wait till this next crop of captains get their chance.  You think THIS bunch of DC's is taking a beating!  Wait till MD or DA get a shot at the big spot.  These guys aren't taking the Alan Rosetti path to success of simply Doing The Right Thing!  FTM KTF & see you all on SUPER TUESDAY!

Received via Email 3-3-07  Its official: From now on do NOT tell the doctor anything about your medical history. Don't lie on the form, just refuse to fill it out  based on confidentiality.  Everyone that has been screwed by the NFPA standards was screwed by honesty more than the doctor. Just say "I don't know".
TEAM:  This subject recently came up with a person who is knowledgeable in the ways of the dreaded DOT physical.  During a DOT physical, the Dr. is not even allowed to ask 'if' you are on meds or 'what' they are unless their presence is evident in your blood work. 

Received via Email 3-3-07  It looks like it will now be necessary to bring your lawyer to your annual physical.  Kinda like being arrested just to go get a finger wave.  You think that's the doc's finger?  It' not.  It's Big Bird screwing you another way.  Be very careful what you say when talking to this doc.  Getting in his face or flat refusing to answer his questions could be dismissal grounds.  Since they're using our own standards against us it would be difficult to win a suit against our own standards.  Another case where winning by the union at the bargaining table is twisted into covert retaliation by the city.  Never give up the physicals at the bargaining table.  The administering of the physical is what's improper not the standards.  The physicals are too important for the health and safety of the members (when done properly). 

VCF

Received via Email 3-5-07  It seems to me that refusing to fill out the form is pretty much the same thing as lieing.  It's obvious we are screwed, but why would they want to screw us like this?  If they can't hire new people why are the running off the current people?

Received via Email 3-5-07  I miss the old days when the screwing stopped the second the doctor pulled his finger out of your ass.

Received via Email 3-5-07  If "I" have to go for a physical on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday and my BP is greater than 120/80 and I'm sent to work light duty - none of you mother f***ers that started this shit ball rolling are going to be too pleased to see me.  Better yet, if any of you c**k suckers downtown with high blood pressure takes a physical on a Friday when Doctor Death's not around, I'm filing an EEOC complaint.  Let's see how many of you college edumucated idiots can outrun the freight train that I'm gonna run up your tight asses! 
F**k The Mutts!

Received via Email 3-5-07  And the retirees wonder why we're all pissed?  They did their 20 and before their ass hit the door their retirement check was in the mailbox waiting for them!  Be glad you got out from under this city's boot when you did.  I love being a firefighter but I absolutely hate the city of St. Petersburg.  Look up "hostile work environment" in the dictionary.  It will read, CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG.  It's only going to get worse.  Along with my bad attitude!

Received via Email 3-5-07  ANY NEWS ON THE BIG POW WOW TODAY. ABOUT THE DOC ?

Received via Email 3-5-07  We are making it a priority now that 3 minorities have been put off. To bad Dobbins was not a minority.
TEAM:  We're not sure where you're going with this, but we let it go...

Received via Email 3-5-07  Which D/C is gonna going to be doing the Mail Run ?

Received via Email 3-5-07  I am not going anywhere with this. Look at the Chief's current event propaganda.  It says that we are putting 3 medics and 3 minorities through the process.  I am sure there are some other candidates that would like a chance but they are not a minority so tough shit.  The city is bringing up the word minority. Then 3 minorities are put off for what ever reason and now we are having a powwow.  Lets stop picking and choosing what NFPA standard to use.  Hey but we're acreditted! 

Get your $10 mug because you are going to need it to collect money to support your family.
TEAM:  Nice recovery.  Yes... the "minority" verbiage at roll call didn't go unnoticed amongst our little gaggle, either.  And the 100th is shaping up nicely!

Received via Email 3-5-07  They just told you without telling you.  "Minority."  That narrows it down.  Unless the other DC is going to have a sex change.

Received via Email 3-5-07  How can we hire anyone when we don't have any firefighter slots open?
TEAM:  Good quesion.  Better question:  How can we pay for the supposed overage of FF's that we employ (thus keeping Gomo from dropping his Medic patch and returning to the ranks of FF/EMT's) unless the money is coming from county-paid-for slots that should be paying for Medics?  Don't quote us, but we're beginning to think that Medics are a hard to find item. 
If 'we' were the Mayor, we'd be listening to the fire chief when he says that we're in a bit of a fix.  He (the mayor) should be kissing every Medic's ass to keep them here!

Received via Email 3-5-07  Same way we can promote a Capt. when there is not a slot open.   I'm going way back when Callahan made Capt.  Or when they promoted CD from Lt to Chief of training or DB from Capt. to Fire Marshal.

Received via Email 3-6-07  I have never seen a memo like that before.  A memo that said we hired "minorities".  Not firefighters, not FF/EMT's. I am not opposed to us hiring the best people for the job, but the verbage should read that "we hired 3 medics and 3 EMT's".  Was that some kind of code from JDL that meant "the mayor made me do this one"?

Received via Email 3-6-07  When promotions are made, administration considers it a "save".  They resent blue shirts, so they occasionally pluck somebody out of the sad huddled masses and turn them into humans. HQ doesnt care what happens to those in blue, they only really care about  officers.  Lieutenants are sort of in the middle ground, and it is difficult for them to ride the fence. Thats what makes it a lousy job. If you don't believe me go look in your locker for your official club hat.  You dont have one.  Hats and dress uniforms are only for the worthy.  They even give staff officers more life insurance because the cityvalues their lives more than the boys (and gals) in blue. There.  Feel better now?  Now go clean the station, shit boy.

Received via Email 3-6-07  Here's a little history lesson...Back in the day you came to work and put on your uniform.  You weren't allowed to wear it to and from.  The uniform for roll call was gray shirt and gray pants.  That was what you wore up until 5:00 when you would change into your blues.  Blue pants, gray shirt, (long sleeve in the winter...short in the summer.)and a black tie.  That's right, a tie.  Now if your crew was gonna do some inspections or other task that involved the public during the day this was the process.  Put on your grays when you get to work.  Lt. says your going inspecting at 10:00.  At 9:45 you change to the dress uniform.  When you leave the station you'll also be wearing a hat.  And you better have it on.  When you return for lunch you change back to your grays.  You eat lunch and that afternoon you have hydrant checks.  Back into your blues with your ties and hats.  When you get back from that little task it's back into your grays until 5:00 when you again change into your blues for watching TV (which was only allowed after 5:00) and for working at fires that came in after dark.  If it was after 8:30 you could get away with just wearing your bunker gear if you had been in bed.  However if you were up watching TV you worked the fire in your blue uniform with tie under your bunker gear. 

Times have changed and for the better.  Don't ever complain about those shorts and T shirts.  And for goodness sake be thankful that you no longer have to wear the "club hat".  Just a little reminder that things aren't sometimes as bad as you think.  We complained about having to wear the dress blues after 5:00.  The chief at that time said he wanted us to look professional when dealing with the public. 

Keeping you up to date on what used to be,
Dick Tully

Received via Email 3-6-07  I would wear a tux for the public if they actually paid us what we are worth.

Received via Email 3-6-07  Thanks for the history lesson pops. Next time maybe you can tell us about how you fed the horses and f**ked dalmations all day long..  The truth is no one really cares about what you used to do or what you think.  We thank you for all that you did for the union but that boat set sail a long time ago.  Most of us also realize the only reason you show up around here is for your raise during contract time.  We can always count on you being at the front of the line with your hand out.  During this time of poor morale the last thing people want to here is you telling us to be grateful.  So with all due respect to your stupid stories here is a new schedule for you to follow.  0800 Blow me, 1000  Fly up to DC and blow them,  1700 On your return flight join the mile high club with that cute male steward,  2200 Take that stupid hat you used to wear, shine up the bill and shove it straight up your wrinkled old a**. The rest of the day is free for you do as you please.  You can also dress however you want.  I suggest a sundress and high heels. 
TEAM:  Wow!  Thanks, so much for insterting the starts in the word "ass" for us!

Received via Email 3-7-07  6/07#5  Wow, It must really suck to be you. It's plainly evident your father never beat the principals of respecting your elders into you enough. I for one being a senior member of this department and a dues paying member of our union appreciate what ever knowledge our retiries are willing to share. I'm sure its a daunting task for you to look yourself in the mirror every morning and to believe without question that you have all the right answers to all our problems.  Maybe it's time for you to grow up and shut your filthy cake hole. Have some RESPECT !!!!

Obviously Senior to you.

Received via Email 3-8-07  # 5 on 3/6 , you have some definite issues and you need help, maybe it's not you maybe it's the moral of spfr that makes you slash out at others. Maybe you dont have a good home life. Whatever the case may be slashing out at someone like Dick Tully a man that paved some of the roads that you walk on at this dept. isn't the answer. It's time for you to make a decision stay here and be a part of something or take your pissy attitude and join the WWF, I am sure they can use another running mouth and I hear the pay is better. You owe Dick an apology for what you said....man up and do it. I doubt you are capable of it. Like 3/6 #6 said "It must really suck to be you"

Received via Email 3-8-07  RESPECT- starts with liking yourself, obviously 3-6 # 5 doesn't like himself and finds it easy to lash out at a man that he probably doesn't even know. Take all of your pinned up hostilities and turn them into something worthwhile try jerking off.....It's harmless unless you do it in public.

Received via Email 3-8-07   The horses had names.........Dick and Dan

Received via Email 3-8-07  Thank you Dick I for appericate all you did for us and your knowledge. Please continue to share it with us. Scott Pownall ( also retired )

Received via Email 3-8-07  6/07 #5 I have been reading this site for some time now and have not said anything. You got on here and totally disrepected one of the people that has done nothing but supported this union for as long as I have been involved. It is obvious you are only in the fire service for the paycheck and the schedule. To you this is just a job and nothing more, you need to step back and take a look around at some of the guys that have been on the job and learn something and close your mouth for a bit. Dick I thank you for your insite to how it was back then and for your years of service to the fire department. I am one of those guys that has been on the job for over 20 years and would never even think of bashing a BROTHER OR SISTER firefighter like that. I know you will go ahead and take your shot at me for this post and I could not care if you do. May we all be safe out there and look out for each other.

20+ years and having respect for those who are senior.

Received via Email 3-8-07  Dear 3/7/07 #1, Before you tell any one who they should respect - ask yourself if any one truly respects you.  It's just a guess here, but YOU are the person with nothing going for them in life other than time on the job.  That is obvious because you have to remind people that you are senior to everyone.  To that I say great, be glad you planned your finances so poorly that you have to work for 40 years.  You should be proud!  Perhaps you can help me "clean my filthy cake hole" and change my mind if you can explain the relevance  of some fossil telling me about how many times he changed clothes in a shift.  The time for a history lessons isn't after the City insults us with a pathetic raise. Maybe you don't like the younger "smart ass" firefighters because they have options, unlike you.  People come on the job with more options today, they are smarter in the fact that they look at different departments and aren't afraid to go somewhere else for a better deal.  You are correct in the fact that my father never "beat the principals of respecting elders into me".  He didn't have to, because from an early age I was able to figure out people that deserved respect and people that didn't.  The people that don't deserve it are usually the ones that tell  you all about it.  Kind of like you.

Love, Dick Hurts

Received via Email 3-8-07  Are these the kinds of punks we are hiring today?  Show a little respect, junior.

Received via Email 3-8-07  I agree with the pissed off guy.  I for one don't care about war stories or what people used to dress like.  Stories don't pay the bills.  As for all the people that are doing this job for something other than the money, go ahead and donate your paycheck to the homeless in Tent City!

Received via Email 3-8-07  That shizzit, just ain't right.  Think of all that he could have accomplished had he stayed here.  There's an emply spot on the mantle for one more Union Volleyball Tournament.  Doh!  Did I say 'Union'?  He never should have been allowed to play on any team wearing a jersey that said Local 747 on it.  That should go for the rest of the MUTTS who won't even pay the $50 a year in retirement dues.  How doe's "You're dead to me, sound"?

Received via Email 3-8-07  If it wasn't our past union officals you to may be living in a tent homeless. count your blessings

Received via Email 3-8-07  What does Dan's dick have to do with anything?

Received via Email 3-8-07  To all: Please Be AWARE!! A MAJOR MUTT is on the LOOSE. Division CHEF THOM B., Former IAFF Pres. from north county DFD.  Forced to resign after giving the screws to a firefighter for 5 months on BS charge.  To all Brothers and Sisters - this guy may be the next one coming your way... pass the word because this FINO does not belong near the fire service. This guy has caused so many open wounds that DFD will bleed for a long time. HMS

Received via Email 3-8-07  Good Evening Dick Hurts,

Out of respect for the ass whipping the on-duty members took at the hands of the city council slugs I wasn't going to post anything here or elsewhere on the site.  But even when the lives and futures of all of us are under attack there are those who just can't help but show their ass on this site.  While the rest of us were paying close attention to our future, Mr. Hurts was busying himself with thinking up demeaning dialog to describe his feelings about something that had nothing to do with him.  When I posted my comments on uniform changes it was in response to the post from 3/6/07 Number 2 that read:  "Thats what makes it a lousy job. If you don't believe me go look in your locker for your official club hat."  My post was not intended to be anything but a look at what the current members are missing and the "hat" was what triggered it.  And by the way that post was written and sent BEFORE the afternoon’s activities.  Actually there are a lot of things missing that you don't have to do Mr. Hurts.  You don't wash tires.  You don't hang hose.  You don't mow grass.  You don't paint.  You don't do a lot of things that are a part of the tradition of the fire service that I lived.  Oooops, I'm sorry.  Now I'll have to read another batch of your venom for reminiscing  without your permission.

I hate to give you a response to something you know nothing about but you are a person to be pitied.  You have no sense of humor nor do you want anyone else to have one either.  You have no respect for yourself or your co-workers when you present yourself in the manner you do.  You’re incapable of intelligent dialog and resort to profanity and obscenity to get your somewhat meaningless point across.  What you’ll never understand is that you’ve somehow landed in a job ill suited for your lack of breeding and consequently the fire service is forced to tolerate you.  But you’re not the first one to be privileged to be employed over your head and you won’t be the last.  In an effort to help the less intelligent (that would be you) I would suggest that you don’t interpret all the posts on this site as being for your perusal and they surely don’t require your response.  You’re just not that important.  Oh, and there’s no need to respond at this time either.  No one cares what you think.  Have a great day.

Dick Tully

Received via Email 3-9-07  Well, junior I guess you missed the point. It's not about the history lesson,what was said, was about the visious insulting way you trashed Dick Tully for no good reason. We all have the right to express our opinons and the way you expressed yours was wrong plain and simple. If that is your way of appreciating thoughs that have come before you,than I can only believe that you must be a true F-I-N-O.  Maybe you sould go back and reread the CHARACTER page. I agree,you do owe him an apology.  Now, on to your comments about me. First,you'll never know about my financial well being and what it took to get where I am in life. I will tell you this,if my pay here didn't get the bills payed then I,like many others before you worked a second and third job to make ends meet.  It will make you appreciate what you have. I,like you have the greatest job around,even with it's draw backs. If your in it for the pay and glory then your in the wrong career field. Remember, this is a civil service job,which means sub-standard pay and benifits at the same time being expected to perform our duties in a highly professional manner for John-Q-Public when ever they call. So quit winning about what you think you deserve and what your not getting cause the rest of us are in that same boat.  Here's a novel idea for you,go out and get a part-time job to help make ends meet and put forth some extra effort with your union to fight the good fight. This is a long career. Otherwise, don't be afraid to go and get that better deal you speak of. I for one won't stop you,the door is open,don't let it hit you in the ass on your way out.  When you reply to this, how about manning up and signing your real name so the rest of your brothers & sisters can get to know the real you before you leave.  As for my character and the respect I've earned within the department, my name is Tom Inglis,go ask around for yourself.

Received via Email 3-9-07 3-8-07  good evening dick hurts,
Well put Mr.Tully, just don't hold your breath he may be to young to get the hint
FTM

Received via Email 3-9-07  Dearest Dick(less), at the rate of dragging this thing on forever let me try to end it. I have no idea of when your post was written nor do I care.  If the "tradition" that you brag about is hanging hose, mowing grass, painting, and washing tires than perhaps you should have worked for ABLE BODY instead of the City of St Pete.  I see tradition more as putting out fires and saving lives.  You know Dick, like when you used to run 25 rescue calls in a shift and still have time to train and put out a fire if there was one.  Oh, wait, that's right, you didn't do that way back when.  You were busy making it hard on the minorities that were hired by giving them the cold shoulder and making racist jokes behind their backs.  I'm a funny guy too Dick, did you here the one about the guy who left the job and couldn't let go....Yeah, I thought you did.  Remember this Dicky boy, the attitude of the "younger guys" you hate so much is what you helped create when you would sit around the station with your pals and bitch in front of us!  Save the pity for yourself. Next!

Received via Email 3-9-07  Bravo Tom and Dick.....you too are what this job is about, not the other Mutt.

Received via Email 3-9-07  To one man one tool, you must be new to this site. Just about half of it pertains to bashing a fellow firefighter. SHit we are beating the hell out of our former chief when he is down. Tully comes in here and runs his mouth like those homo DC guys. Yes for running your mouth you take a beating as I am sure you are going to get wallop"?". Yes, new guys do not care how the the old timers did it, they should somewhat but they don't. How many new guys have you taking out and show them the engine or do you just call them broom and tell them to clean the shitters? So along with Tully, go F***yourself.

Received via Email 3-9-07  Hey, quit the baby ass bickering and get focused on the issue here. We need to learn from the session that the city and council really don't care about us or our families, and we need to somehow gather our wussy asses together and change this crap. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.  This city will never do anything until the public is upset with them.  Lets show the public the truth and have them barrage the city with comments and editorials. How, you can figure it out. Quit hammering each other and start a plan on how to change this.  Educating council and kissing their ass does not work (PERIOD).  Getting the public pissed off at them will work. And if they know the truth, such as the deceitful presentation tactics and all the other back door crap, the public will all feel like us.  Pissed off and over it !!!!!

Received via Email 3-9-07  Well,junior I guess your still not man enough to put your name to your opinions. I can only assume we won't see you around the union office in support of fighting the good fight,how ever that fight needs to be fought. Toss your gear in the garbage with the rest of the trash you hand out here F-I-N-O and move on to digging a ditch or roofing a house, cause your not doing any of us any good.
FTM   T.I.

Received via Email 3-9-07  Hey don't all the new guy's hired since 1990 or so, come on the job with 30 years experience already? What you new guys need to remember is you will be an old fart someday too. Shut your traps nobody but you cares about your opinions.

Received via Email 3-9-07  Good luck.  The truth is that your union cant negotiate a contract, they never could.  All they can do is wait for the citys best offer and deliver it to the membership.  What the union is best at is filing grevances.  That is important, but not really all that powerful.   Dont overestimate your union, but dont sell them short either.  They have their place.
TEAM:  "The truth is that your union..."  Hmmmm... visitor?

Received via Email 3-10-07  I am not the guy that you are all gunning for, but I could not help but read what TOM INGLIS WROTE.  From what I know about him through other people, is that he is a good firefighter but one of the biggest racist's on the job and he doesnt pay back swap.  So I am curious how he put himself in the GOOD CHARACTER category.  I can't think of anyone that speaks highly of him.  Through some of the old Afro-American firefighters his name has came up a few times about his CHARACTER.  He was involved in some of the harsh treatment of Afro-Americans that have come and gone.  Not trying to start anything... but when a man comes in here speaking of his CHARACTER but there are things contrary to what he speaks.  I have to throw up the BULLSHIT FLAG.

Received via Email 3-10-07  Damn, you beat me to it.   Tom Inglis "Man of Character", what a joke!  Show me one person who will vouch for that guy.  By the way Tom, can I get you to pay back that swap you owe me?  I didn't think so.

Received via Email 3-10-07  Listen, listen.  I'd like to tell you all how much courage I have and how great I am and how I got to where I am now, but I'm afraid that if I tell you all who I am that you'll not only catch me bragging, but you'll also know how full of shit I am.  Hey Tom and all the guys who think it's so important to add your name to the bottom of a post.  The main reason you don't add your name to the bottom of a post, is because people read them! 

RF

Received via Email 3-10-07  3-10-07 #1  Thats a pretty slanderous statement you made about being a racist. How about identifing yourself so we can converse offline about that issue. Because,I'll also throw the bullshit flag.   And as far as harsh treatment of you or anyone else had nothing to do with race,creed or ethnicity. It was all about how you handled yourself while being f***ed with. I will admit I had a pretty big chip on my shoulder in my early years and screwing with people (especially probies)and soaking them down was the norm whichever station you were at until we became a kinder-gentler department and the fun & games was outlawed. Other then that I'd be real interested in any events of harsh treatment your refering to. By the way,I only know of one occasion that a swap with AK has not been payed back, I'm still waiting for him to call in that swap. If your man enough to throw down the race card in public I'm sure you won't be scared to face me in private. You know where I work,or call me at home. I look forward to hearing from you.

T.I.

Received via Email 3-11-07  Before you guys beat up Dick Tulley just remember he jumped over the negotiating table and threatened to kick R. Duvernoy's ass (the city negotiator), Maybe Winnie should try that with Conners.

3-10-07 #2  Sure all you have to do is call me.

Received via Email 3-12-07  Hey all, the city hired the Tampa attorney Gonzales, because he is great at breaking unions. Do you not think they are trying to get us fighting amongst each other so they can really hammer us. Lets all stick together and show them we are going to stick together and fight for what we believe is right - better pay, work hours, and pension.  If we remain unified we can get things accomplished. Lets come up with some ideas how to accomplish our mission rather than waste our time hammering each other like we have been doing for years. Don't let the city spend their money on a union buster like Gonzales, lets make them spend it on a worthy cause - Public Safety or better yet Fire/EMS service delivery. UNITED we stand - DIVIDIED we fall.  Which one do you want ?
TEAM:  Good points all.  But... All of the bickering that goes on in the cyberworld doesn't amount to a hill of beans.  In the case of the existence of the daily machinations that go on, on these pages - the TEAM thinks it has a cathartic effect. 

What does and 'should' matter is that we all pay close attention to the concerted effort that this city has put towards funding every pet project they feel gives them the best return on their investment in the eyes of the neighborhoods.  Look at the city's website.  It's all about the neighborhoods!  As difficult as it may sound, we all need to be participants in the process.  There needs to be a small gaggle of like minded individuals (that's us) who join their neighborhood association's in their fire station's neighborhood.  This is grassroots activism at it best and it's where most - if not all of this city's future leaders are spawned.  Joining is easy.  Answering the first question is easier... "I live 1/3 or my entire adult working life at the fire station in this neighborhood!"  You don't need to bang the drum about the issues that plague this department.  Neighbors are naturally inquisitive and want to know about their investment in public safety.  I would venture to bet that this is but one of the small directives that this Local will offer up in the future to it's members as a means to mitigate our 'diminutive' voice amongst the neighborhood associations.

Received via Email 3-12-07  If you recall, last year we were told in a memo that we would be attending the neighborhood association meetings.  We were also told that we would be there as a show piece and were not to speak on the issues.  The administration is afraid of what we have to say.  They are afraid that if the public, (the voting public) actually knew what is happening with public safety in their city they would be appalled.  The cops come out and say they have staffing issues for special events, what about the staffing issues during the overnight hours?  What about staffing levels on our ladder trucks? Or does it not count because they are not really ladder trucks right now.  It's obvious that council wants to act and remain ignorant "like a 5th grader" (Foster's words, not mine) on all the important issues.  Maybe its time to show the public that they are getting the short end of the stick when it comes to THEIR well staffed fire department.

Received via Email 3-12-07  Maybe, we can't go to the neighborhood association meetings on duty, but better yet, a group of union members with a union staff member leading could take a group of firefighters to each neighborhood association meeting and expose what the city is doing to us. They can't stop us if it is union led and attended off duty. This may be a great way to get out our story and reveal the truth.  Reveal it all, staffing issues and the way they treat the ones who are risking their life within the neighborhoods where we serve. Be assured they will be outraged if the truth is revealed. Just give us the word UNION Pres. Assign a union staff member to head this project and lets get the truth out there at the grass-root level. 

Received via Email 3-12-07  Great ideas. Now were talking. Lets hear some more ideas on how to knock down the greedy monster that is trying to force our noses into the ground!

Received via Email 3-12-07  Very good idea.  It will take some serious promoting though.  You know how tough it is to get a decent size group to just show up at a monthly union meeting. Put it together, promote it, make it happen, that kind of exposure will be very timely with the up coming negotiations.  COUNT ME IN.

Received via Email 3-13-07  Count me in too. We need the union leadership to get this ball rolling. I am sure NOW, there will be more volunteers to help. We are all sick and tired of this rich city sticking it to us.

Received via Email 3-14-07  This is all good but about 3 weeks to late. Why didn't you think of this before they decided on 3.5 percent! Any one can close the gate after the horse is out.  Too little too late! SORRY better luck next year!
TEAM: Or sooner.

Received via Email 3-15-07  Sorry but here's another chance for "I told ya so". Check my posts from a year or so ago. I think it was under "contract". I told you back then it was the thing to do. Nobody listened.  Now it's the idea of the week.

Dick Tully
Retired

Received via Email 3-15-07  1st 3/13, its not to late if your not leaving in a month. We are already half way through another contract year and maybe if we begin working now like Father Dick Tully mentions, we may have stronger backing next time around.  We cant just sit around and mope all day.  Get off your butt and go to some neighborhood association meetings.

Received via Email 3-15-07  Wow, Father Dick Tully, a man of the cloth!

Received via Email 3-20-07  Your not always gonna agree with Dick, Rick or Winnie or even the web master but one thing is for sure make your voice heard! PERIOD! And your neighborhood association meetings is a good place to start.

Received via Email 3-29-07  To 3-20, I will NEVER agree with any of those idiots, I know better than any of them and I would run myself for the Pres job if I thought you folks were worthwhile. I find it easier to sit back and plant seeds of disdain and then chuckle when I see the gullible guppies swallow and run with the madeup information. Boy these guys are soooo easy.

Received via Email 3-29-07  I'm with you first 3/29. I would run if Winnie did not have everyone drinking the koolaid. He has everyone hook, line, and sinker. You or I would not have a chance for any votes if we did run. Looks like we have a lot of people signing up for the grand prix. Unity my ass, momma needs new shoes.

Received via Email 3-29-07  Quick causing dissention and grow up. Unite or leave the union you bunch of cry babies.

Received via Email 3-30-07  Waaaaa, there is nothing but dissention. Can I leave local but pay dues to IAFF? I was an avid donater of union pool time. I do not think that a person does not have to come to work at all. Our contract sucked 3.5 just how much pool time does that take?
TEAM:  After reading your post, we decided to put a new page together.  Yes, the contract sucks at 3.5% with no pension improvements.  That's not really the point though, is it.  After all, we didn't fight for 3.5%.  We fought for more.  If it were any other year - facing any of the typical greed of this city, we might well have come out on top.  This city is facing the unknown and as such are not willing to get off of their wallet at this time.  A loss for us -- but not what you'd describe as a big victory for the Mayor's team.  They didn't woo the council with an over the top presentation.  If anything, they proved the point that figures lie and liars figure!  And as to your statement, "I do not think that a person does not have to come to work at all."  If you're making reference to the time spent by our officers in an attempt to secure a better way of life for all of us, please be mindful of the fact that there are several Local's in the state whose principal officer is released from Fire Fighting duty, just for that purpose!

Received via Email 3-30-07  Hey 3/29. 1 and 2. are either officers, administration, or wanna be captains! If you have such high aspirations to be President, why don't you silly FINO's sign your name??

Received via Email 3-30-07  3/29' You're not qualified to carry Newton's garbage. You're a loser, sour puss, or probably one of those Kiss ass fools that sleep with the enemy? FTM

Received via Email 3-30-07  How many hours does it take?  Remember this...the city does not use any pool time to sit on their ass and screw with us at the nego table. The team on the other hand, puts in many hours preparing for and gathering info to make the case.  Day after day.  Many many hours have been used for this and other causes.  Yes you can pay dues to the IAFF - only.  RETIRE.....but even the IAFF does not want someone that is not a part of a local.  They have an alumni group that is somewhat like an axillary.

Received via Email 3-30-07  Hey dummies, there are other issues involved with union pool time, like getting your ass out of trouble when you do something stupid and admin hammers you a little to hard.  Look at the big picture instead of whinning about every little item - or run for president yourself and quit your crying.  mama mama mammmmmama   maammammaamaa !!!!

Received via Email 3-30-07  3/29 #1 & #2 you are just ridiculous.  Sign you name.  We all want to see who has aspirations for president.  You would not make it anyway because you are doubting your own abilities in the way you speak. 
TEAM:  We're betting it was all toungue & cheek!

Received via Email 3-30-07  There was a good point made in regards to the pool time usage. Why are we giving it? So the team can be ready for meetings like impasse? Well then, why would the team have two work until midnight the two nights prior? Maybe the mail wasn't delivered for months and it caught them off guard! Maybe we're giving it to our lobbyist who wanders the hallowed halls of official buildings alerting the politicians of the real dealings on the street. Wait a minute, doesn't happen and probably never will, that just wouldn't make any sense. Hum, let me see...I know, we donate time for the president to fight for our members who are in trouble when they admitted to committing the offense and offer to take their lumps. No, he wouldn't go against the wishes of his membership. Hum, stay with me folks, I'm thinking...I know, we donate time for...crap, fresh out of sarcasm. I think I've made my point. Since taking the position, the president has steered clear of a path requested by the membership. How many of the articles in question were on the survey? Why is so much effort being used on these articles? Are we being told what's good for us? Are we that stupid? We are heading down the same path as Clearwater and if things are so good there, why aren't those brothers and sisters spreading the news? It aint happening! I have heard 'us' talk in the stations and we don't want to be another Clearwater. I, too am sick of the comparison. The move in the right direction is to remove the current president from office and for the elected to listen to his people. We need to become a UNION. That's right, I capitalized it and we should wear it as a badge of honor. We don't. In closing and back to my original point, stop wasting YOUR pool time until you're guaranteed that the time is going to be used wisely.
Good luck and be safe,
John Travolta
P.S. You guys are the greatest in the state and I'll be watching closely.

Received via Email 3-30-07  I'd be ashamed to sign my real name too Mr. Travolta!
Loser

Received via Email 3-30-07  Maybe maybe maybe you're holding a grudge and it shows!  And yes, you've made your point, for whatever it was worth. As to your comparison to Clearwater, don't look now but they've yet to loose an arbitration hearing.  Because we haven't scored well and they haven't score well with contracts is it the fault of the Local?  Will we turn out just like Clearwater?  If you haven't been looking, we're in the very same fix already.  A hostile anti-police and fire HR (our fault?).  A hostile and anti-police and fire mayor (our fault?).  A hostile anti-police and fire council (our fault?).  I'm guessing what your doing is blaming the Clearwater Brothers and Sisters and we're next in line with your stupid blame game.  Hey BROTHER...If you haven't been watching, this city isn't even going to work on multi-year contracts now.  When have you ever seen that happen before?  The reason...not because we're acting like the guys from Clearwater, but because something out there OTHER THAN ORGANIZED LABOR has got them spooked, so stop all your WE'RE JUST LIKE CLEARWATER bullshit.

Good for us if we're just like Clearwater.  When you need someone to lean on, they've never foresaken us and I for one don't intend on foresaking them now by thowing your bullshit Clearwater strawman out there!  When I hear someone say CLEARWATER, the first thing I think of is the shafting that the city's giving them and not how I can blame them for getting some balls.  Balls that THEY HAD long before we got our set!

You've given pool time before.  Now how would be know that?  I know that a FINO like you would never give pool time just by your attitude towards it!

Survey survey survey...if it's not in the survey, we don't deserve it.  That all inclusive survey was taken nearly 4 years ago and in that time we've slipped behind even more of our brothers and sisters around the state in every one of the categories that Winnie presented to council.  Too many bullets to the proposal?  Yeah, I've heard that one too.  Go read it and tell me that it's NOT easier with it broken down into bullets.  Why on earth would you want to hand them something to mull over that says Pay, Workweek & Overtime, but not attempt to explain it.  Maybe it was tough for YOU to get your brain around, but not for council.  Again, quit blaming US for someone else's greedy tendencies.  If you haven't noticed, this city manages to dig deep for every touchy feely program that comes down the lane.  They don't give a shit about firefighters and don't appreciate us in the least. 

Direction.
Accountability.
A working website.
Questions answered with a mere phone call.
Money in the bank for the first time in the hx of the local.
Union 101 every other month (and it's open to anyone).
Officers held accountable by the president (slackers need not apply). 
And to top it off, I'll bet that the majority here think you're full of shit!
Get over yourself and quit blaming us for the anti-labor actions of others.
Quit your lame attempts at working against us and show up at the union hall when it's time to earn your keep!

I've got a great idea.  Let's just work on pay and next time we'll ask for a little bit more.  In 30 or 40 years, we'll all be gone and so will our chances of getting paid like the professionals we are.  Sell yourself short, but don't sell me short.  See you during the next picket.  Or will I?

Received via Email 4-01-07  As -night turns into Day...
That little ole birdie, is back and sharing real rumors!  If your stomach is ready...  As a lot of you know, Capt Masters is ready to leave, retire, very soon... A certain EMS Captain that has taken one for the team more than once, wants out to the real world.  Since he did it for us, I hope he gets the assignment he desires.  BAD NEWS/rumor... the dreaded red drunk may be your new EMS captain!  You'd thought FHQ would have seen the signs. But no, his promotion is a real night terror!  I only hope the high chief of EMS sees through his anti firefighter's adgenda. Its all about him!  What happened to his job down south? The bird tells us he was, "let go".  Hummm makes you wonder what got in the way of his tiny little...... Pray for a chief that listens to the majority of the SPFR.  DON'T promote that BIGOT!
FTM FTM>>>>

Received via Email 4-01-07  If you think ems is the last three letters in problems now, just wait until someone like SK gets in there as captain. The ems division will begin its downward spiral the day he goes in there, just like the MFS A shift did a few years back.  Once the spin down the toliet begins, it will take a great plumber even better than Lt. SH (who should have been capt a long time ago) to fix that problem.  Point being, listen and observe what 4/1 posted, it has more than a lot of merit to it !!

Received via Email 4-02-07  ProblEMS?  Suppression rhymes with depression.

Received via Email 4-03-07  Hey if suppression depresses you, better go work for Sunstar. They do excellent EMS work and they don't fight fire there!!

Received via Email 4-03-07  It's hard to believe we still have ems people at SPFR that don't like firefighting. Unbelieveable!

Received via Email 4-05-07  Its hard to believe we still have slick sleeved people at SPFR that think this is a FIRE department.  Check the stats, fantasy boy:  EMS  86, Fire 14.   If we were on a commission basis paramedics would be buying yachts and the firefighters would be sweeping floors at  the shipyards.  Everybody "likes firefighting," who wouldn't?  It's exciting and fun on the rare occasion that it happens.  But let's  not  get all excited about ourselves when we ride the big trucks that hardly go anywhere.  If what you have is a "job", why do paramedics  feel like they are on vacation when they do it?

Received via Email 4-06-07  1st 4/5, sounds like your a great candidate for Sunstar. Snuggle up with your MOMs cause thats were you belong !

Received via Email 4-06-07  4/5/07 Although your statistics are correct, they don't give a good picture of what is actually going on. As an example, take station 6 (I like 6). According to the raw numbers which you refer to, they ran 3,500 ems calls and 500 fire calls in 2006 (round numbers). However, if you take individual runs, engine 6 ran 2,500 calls. Rescue 6 stil. ran 3,500 (they also picked up a few calls in the that 500 number that was left over, but not much)). In other words, engine 6 ran a lot of ems calls either assisting rescue, running as first responder, car wrecks (which are coded as ems) and other misc runs. Rescue 6 still ran about 3 more calls per shift, which is significant, but not the stretch that your statistics show. Rob Edwards (formerly of the BIG 6)

Received via Email 4-06-07  Its hard to believe you are still bringing this up.

Received via Email 4-07-07  Okay Robster, that sort of proves my point.  No fires.
Thanks for playing.

Received via Email 4-08-07  "no fires" what an idiot. There was a working fire today and why dont you do a little research you retard and find out for yourself.  Obviously you are from a station that may not have fires but the rest of do run them from time to time.  Mr Edwards is correct, quit being a bone head and go work for sunstar. 

Received via Email 4-09-07  Speaking of that fire I looked at the screen and saw E-17 on the call.Since they dropped out of our union does anyone else feel we should drop them from our run cards?

Received via Email 4-09-07  4/07/07  we've has 1.5 to 2 million dollars in fire losses in 12 days and that's "no fires"??!!

Received via Email 4-09-07  A fire from time to time?  That's your reasoning for why a department that dedicates less than 15% of its efforts to suppression is  called a "FIRE" department?  Nice try.  Winn Dixie sells a few lotto tickets but we don't call it the "Lottery Store".  Calling us Fire  Rescue is heading in the right direction, but St. Petersburg EMS Department would be more honest.  I suppose we could still keep a  little office down the hall for suppression if it would make you happy. Paramedics have it pretty good in spite of the poorly chosen name of our department.  You guys keep cooking for us and cleaning  the station and I think everything will work out fine. Now go cook up something tasty, okay honey?

Received via Email 4-09-07  If that is your true feeling, then drop your fire certification and go get a job with the Suntards!

Received via Email 4-09-07  4/09/07 Sure, right after we run your calls for you with a mutual aid unit, Keep ridin' and hidin' the mgt studies love it.

Received via Email 4-10-07  I would rather run with a mutual aid unit than have an individual with an over inflated ego like you at the station with me.  I have great respect for many medics, but I have a feeling that you are one of the ones that I find hiding behind a water cooler and a powerade bottle in rehab, or who pretends to be checking that airway bag up until the very moment that I finish cleaning the station.  And by the way, no need to worry because I would not even accept your $10 for chow at roll call.  Now hurry up and go sign up for OT at the next special event so you dont have to get mandatoried for a position that will make you drop a bead of sweat.   Suntard wanna be.

Received via Email 4-10-07  Don't get bitchy, girls.  Where are you going to go if paramedics quit justifying your job?

Received via Email 4-10-07  Hey you guys need to check out this site. www.bitemyassifyoucangetupoffthefloor.com

Received via Email 4-11-07  hey lets do like some of the big departments nation wide, Keep the fire department and the BLS responses, and get rid of the friggin cry baby ems workers and let them work with the county.  Think it doesn't happen, it happens all over the country.  Fire seperate from EMS.  I think I like that concept !!  Remember our budget is about 38 million, with about 9 million for ems.  We can run the fire side on the 29 million left over, and the county can keep their money and their EMS.

Received via Email 4-11-07  Good luck, 4/11 #1.   Get rid of EMS and watch your pay plummet downward against the cost of living.  Go find a medium sized FD  without EMS that pays worth a shit... they are not there.  Didn't you ever wonder why EMS was grabbed up by all the fire departments  in the first place?  Its job justification.   Good luck keeping a wage you can live on running only BLS calls and a couple of fires a year. Now settle down and make me something to eat.  Oh, and go get yourself all pretty like for us, okey doke?

Received via Email 4-14-07  problEMS !!

Received via Email 4-14-07  Lets break down the word SUPPRESSION.   SUP:  Go make my supper, missie.  PRE:  Premenstrual problems, experienced by most  suppression personnel.  SS:  Yes, that's right, the Nazi fascist guard, in honor of the suppression leaders that think they are in the  military.  And   ION: Representing any atom sized brain, which is the minimum gray matter required to make it through a fire  academy.

Not as catchy as that super funny problEMS deal, but much more accurate.

Now seriously, go fix my supper, beyotch.

Your Leader,
Miss Penelope "Dark Nip" Cruz

Received via Email 4-15-07  Wow 2nd 4/14 for someone that is busy doing ems work you sure have a lot of time on your hands, hey how bout a drink, water boy? When we come out of the fire, you can get the real workers some water cause heaven knows you aint gonna be in there. Now go fetch some water and dont forget the ice, you
MANGINA !!
Your Idol, Batman !

Received via Email 4-15-07  One of these days, I'm going Daigler on this place!

Received via Email 4-15-07  Boohah !!

Received via Email 4-16-07  OK Daigler killed an innocent female civilian. Not a mutt....

Received via Email 4-16-07  Editor, why would you post that Daigler comment on this board for all to see? I know you read the posts and do not let all get by. We are not even on the bullshit page. Should we take this dickeheads threat seriously or just go about business and figure this dickhead is running their mouth.
TEAM:  We can't advise on that.  The 'Daigler' comment above - combined with a few "I'm gonna spin out" comments are no doubt, someone firing for effect.  We can't even tell if they're from the same person or not, as the emails come in stripped of their headers from the webhosting company.  If these comments aren't from the same person, you can bet we'll have a new interpretation on the subject by the morning.  Oh... and the stuff that we don't publish, is usually pretty venom filled and directed to specific individuals.  They're not very pretty!  We simply delete them and scrub the evidence from the HDD every morning.

Received via Email 4-16-07  WOnder if anyone took the Korean kid in Virginia serious, or was he just "firing" for effect? If it was for effect, it worked!
Truely sad Mr. Editor.
TEAM:  Then we better quit being critical of everyone and everything!  Cover and concealment are good ideas too.  Oh, yeah... packing.org can be your best friend.

Received via Email 4-16-07  The Daigler comment was without a doubt the most ignorant of posts to date, this person needs help and needs it now....seek help for yourself. If your post was an effort to be funny....it's not ! If it was an effort to look stupid then you have at least proven you can do that. Seriously get help.

Received via Email 4-20-07  So the liberals are blaming Bush for what happened at Virginia Tech.  I am going to call on a truly enlightened liberal mind to try to  make sense of this for me.  Mr. Barfield can you explain it in such a way that even my conservative ears can understand?  It seems like shameless grandstanding to me at the expense of grieving families. Surely that is not the case.

Thanks.
Dave

Received via Email 4-21-07  No way.  Surely a liberal would not act that way.  They are sincere.  Like John Edwards who cares so deeply about the poor in  between his $400 haircuts.

The only people to blame at the VTech massacre, are theidiots, be them college admin, local police, etc, that didn't take the murder's threats seriously, as reported by his professors. There's no need to be conservative, or liberal here. It either of them are blaming the other's then we are most certainly our worst enemy. And Dave, thanks for the enlightened comment, feelings mutual.

Peace, John

Received via Email 4-22-07  I'm not blaming liberals for VaTech, I am just blaming some of them for poor behaviour after the fact.  No matter how secure any  school is, you can never track, stop or even identify a true homicidal lunatic.  God bless all of those affected by those events.

Dave
P.S.  Although, I bet the ACLU would have defended that nutjob kid's right to privacy.  I forget, is that a liberal organization?

Received via Email 4-22-07   http://www.sptimes.com/2007/04/22/Opinion/I_bought_a_gun.shtml  Just about says it all!

Received via Email 4-22-07  The ACLU sucks.  Thank you.
Willie Horton

Received via Email 4-22-07  Come on dave, laughs over death's?

Received via Email 4-22-07  What that story in the Times says is that he's about the biggest wimp on the planet.  Another candy ass brought up to believe guns kill people.  Another anti-gun nut with the same mentality as that mangina eating Rosey O'Donnel.  What she finds perfectly alright though is that the three bodyguards that she has ....... all carry.  That's ok.  It' just YOU she doesn't want to be able to own a gun.  This guy shouldn't own a gun.  He's not comfortable with it and is terrified of it's ability.  It's gonna be locked in a safe though so that should be a comfort to him when that punk who's high on meth or cocaine comes through the window some night.  As Bugs would say...."What a marooon !!" 
TEAM:  With all that he says is going on right outside his bedroom window - that safe door's going to get a workout!  Do a Google search on this guy.  He's a 'Times wanker.  You or I couldn't hope to score that much type in their fish wrapper.

Received via Email 4-22-07  Who's laughing?  I was pointing out how sickening it is that SOME of the people who work in Washington have chosen to take advantage of the suffering in Virginia as they politicize tragedy.  Everyone I read about guilty of this was commenting from the left. 
I'm disgusted, not amused.
Dave

Received via Email 4-23-07  Rev. Al  Shaprton and the Rev. Jesse jackson leap off the Empire State bldg in a race to the bottom, who wins ???   SOCIETY DOES

Received via Email 4-23-07  GUN CONTROL... Hitting center of mass! 
All the truth and nothing but the truth:
http://www.nra.org/
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/
http://www.ccrkba.org/
http://www.gunowners.org/

So as not to leave anyone out:
http://www.womenshooters.com/

Signed,

Charleton Heston
TEAM:  Charleton Heston -  a true Patriot at the podium, who warns us not to be a "summer soldier or a sunshine patriot."
Back in 1776, Thomas Paine warned Americans about false patriots who wave the flag on sunny days, but fail to uphold liberty in stormy weather: "These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph."

Received via Email 4-23-07  "Hitting center of mass!"  How 'bout center punching them in the cranial vault? 

Received via Email 4-23-07  So I was checking out some of this stuff and it occurred to me, the lefties are always crying about "freedom of speech" and how important it is, to which, I agree.  In fact, a few years ago in a New York art exhibit someone displayed a mason jar full of urine, containing a crucifix.  When people objected, the artist claimed " freedom of speech".  Fair enough, I will accept that even if I don't agree with it.  Therefore, I'm attempting to purchase a Russian T62 main battle tank to park in my front yard.  I figure if a jar full of whiz is acceptable as "freedom of speech" no one should object to the T62, after all, it's just my interpretation of "the right to keep and bear arms".  Besides, you can get some good deals on them over here.

Sgt. Rock, Fallujah, Iraq
PS: This Iraqi oil runs good in my car.
TEAM:  Sgt. Rock - thank you for your service!  If only you were here, you'd drop that T62 idea and go with a large enema wand.  There's one sitting in the front lawn of Station 6 and it looks like it dropped out of a UFO containing giants!  Shhhhhhh.... when they found it they called 'it' artwork, too!

Received via Email 4-24-07  Just curious?  Why is it that Rev Sharpton and Jesse Jackson should jump off a building?  There were prominent white men doing the same thing they were doing.  Also just curious.  What is a liberal and what is a conservative?  Why the f**k do two opposing views matter.  Each ideologie is better than the other.  Conservatives are not always right about how this country should be run nor are the liberals.  At this moment a conservative is running this country and I can find one bright spot in his presidency.  Who lives have been better since Bush been president?  When did Bush ever support the firefighters and the right to unionize.  These people have no connection with us at all. 6 years ago a democrat ran this country and there were a few bright spots buck he was fu**ing up also. When did he ever support the firefighter and their cause.  Never.  Wake up people both sides are playing all of you.  Both sides are not interested in your lives.  How is a man has to choose between paying his home owner insurance and feeding his family.  Politicians cant identify with that.  How can a politician pay 800 dollars for 2 haircuts but some are struggling to pay their rent.  Conservative or liberal.
F**k both of you.    

Received via Email 4-24-07  http://www.twango.com/media/pegster.funny/pegster.10101

Received via Email 4-25-07  Conservatives want the country to be fair for everyone, but everyone does there fair share.  Liberals want to tax the biggest earners  to death so that poor people never have to participate in anything that resembles work.  I think I will stick with the conservative  agenda.  If that upsets the union apple cart a bit, I really don't care. I am an American first, union member second.  I believe  conservatives in charge for now are whats best for America.  The democrats would be trying to figure out ways to provide frequent  flyer miles for the Taliban if you let them.  I dont want to let them.

Received via Email 4-26-07  Thats true. If Al Gore had been president when the WTC got hit we would all be speaking Farsi --- the official language of Iran ---
by now.  Screw the libs.

Received via Email 4-26-07  Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson both thrive on prejudice.  Forget that they are hypocritical and guilty of all the sins they profess to find in others, they are racists and extortionists.  How much longer will our country tolerate haters like these bums?  Have either of them actually ever had a real job?  They claim to be reverends, but do they even go to church much less lead one?  What they  did to Imus was ridiculous and its just the latest of a long history of hatred that comes from both of these guys.   How about a little forgiveness, okay reverend?
Billy Graham
Bible World

Received via Email 4-27-07  Longfellow Deeds called Rev Sharpton the Rhyme Master (For goodness sakes, lets eat some cake)
Emilio Lopez - "may I change your socks?"

Received via Email 4-27-07  Good God this page should become BS page 2. All  the political, shit, and it isnt  even time to send GWBush's ass back to Texass!
01.09.08, "the end of an error"..

Received via Email 4-27-07  If you are going to place Mr. Sharpton or Mr. Jackson name on here then you need to place other high profile ass holes on here because they are not the racist extortionist in this country.  Its funny how you would throw their names out there when there are prominent white people that spew the same bullshit  namely RUSH LIMBAGH OR ANN COULTER.  When has any of those people united any of us in any kind of way.  My guess is that you have this complex where the n----s need to stay in their place because we are not supposed to provoke controversy or speak about anything.  Also I cant beleive that you people are that stupid to believe that if there was a democratic president that the response to terroism would not be the same.  You dont know that?  If you all are so conservative why dont you f**ks stop complaing about your raise.  Last I checked BAKER is a REPUBLICAN he is making things FAIR for YOU and ME.  My job here is EQUAL to the people that works in parks.  Thats what REPUBLICANS stand for isnt it.  Their FAIR.  Dont complain to the union about your raise because a REPUBLICAN mayor saw our raise to be FAIR.  Dont forget the Democrats are a peice of shit too.  You and your f**king ideologies.  f**k both of you. 

Received via Email 4-27-07  Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter don't purport themselves to be most Reverend and don't act as shakedown artist's for a certain ethnic group of people.  Rush and Ann provide commentary that keeps the most Reverend Jackson and Sharpton on a short leash.

Received via Email 4-27-07  4-27-07 #4 That is bullshit and you know it.  Anytime ANN COULTER or MR. RUSH are not agreed with they either lash out at an ethnic group or any group in which they preceive to not think like them.  There are plenty of WHITE MEN that call themselves REVerend and spew just as much bullshit as Mr. Sharpton or Jackson.  You see things the way you want to see them.  A BLACK man is a shakedown artist but a white man provides Commentary.  You guys are a joke.  All this is about is that white men dont like to see black men stand up for something that they percieve as wrong.  It's that same JIM CROW shit.  "Sit down n---a or we are going to put you in your place".  "Sit down n----a you provide the services of a shake down artist, you are not like my white colleagues they provide COMMENTARY.  YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT 4-27-07 #4. 
JIM CROW JR

Received via Email 4-28-07  4/27 #4 is right on the money.  Jackson and Sharpton are extortionist crooks.  Coulter & Rush have prospered strictly on their fan base--- you know, people who LIKE to hear what they say and pay for it.  The reverends of hate Jackson and Sharpton force  people to do things they dont want to do and spend money they dont want to spend to keep people that they are afraid of, from doing things they dont understand.  Jackson thinks black people should say what ever they want but Don Imus should be fired for saying the same bullshit.  Why blacks even need these self appointed leaders is beyond me.  I am a minority, but I am not black.   If I was black, I would be embarrassed by these clowns.
Juan Valdez
On A Mountain High Above Columbia

Received via Email 4-28-07  "Coulter & Rush have prospered strictly on their fan base--- you know, people who LIKE to hear what they say and pay for it."   So how many asshole, bigots are there in the US? How about here at the good ole SPF'nR? Look into the mirror4/28. your the piss ant fool here. Like a great man once said, " I feel your pain" Now go and read a hate blog on your internet...FTM ,and FT-Bigots!( or will the next post from you be about a lil ole blowjob? )

Received via Email 4-29-07  Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have a huge following because their both bullshit artist's.  Their hugh following can be attributed to people who are stupid and thrive on bullshit.  Remember, P.T. Barnum said that there was a sucker born every minute.  

Say... maybe the lefties should come up with a media empire of their own!  They could call it something catchy, like Air America!  It could be funded by left leaning billionaire's such as George Soros.  It could work.  Who the hell needs advertiser dollars when they'll have such a huge following of people who know better than those righties!

Received via Email 4-29-07  Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are the worst bigots in America.  Anyone who looks to them for leadership should be embarrassed.

Received via Email 4-29-07  Al Franken proved that nobody gives a shit about what lefties have to say on the radio.  Air America.  Good one.

Received via Email 4-29-07  "Air America"  Should have been known as "Ran Out of Air America" or "Hot Air America!"

Received via Email 4-29-07  Ann Coulter footnotes her books.  Lefties just make shit up as they go along.  She's not right because she's right, she's right  because she's right.

Sharpton, Jackson, et. al.  Here's another fraud: http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2007/04/26/#a004102

Received via Email 4-29-07  Ann Coulter is the supreme bitch of hate. She not only insults, degrades, and looks down on anyone with a hint of liberal thoughts.  Her footnotes are familiar of another famous book that she, limbaugh, & O'Reilly all read daily, "Mein Kempt". F-T righties, their wrong!

Received via Email 4-29-07  Blonde - a sweet ass and she's a genius to boot!  What more could you ask for?

Received via Email 4-30-07  I admire the way Al Sharpton stands up for former KKK member Senator Byrd (D).  And, despite all the proof the the contrary - Tawana Brawley is still good in his book.  It's the same story with Jackson's apparent failure to accept the fact that the entire Duke lacrosse team is not only not guilty... they're innocent.  Sharpton and Jackson... two rich men who've never worked a day in their lives.

Received via Email 4-30-07   Ann the realist:  "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
-- Ann Coulter, National Review Online, September 2001

Received via Email 4-30-07  I love Ann Coulter.

Received via Email 4-30-07  First and foremost in the afro-american community Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is  a joke.  Only a small percentage of Afro-americans follow them.  My argument is that you guys come in here and throw their names out there as if they are the only ones that are bigots, con artis or what ever you want to call it.  It seems to me that when it is a black man we get the worst labels.  It upsets me because there are white men out there saying and doing some of the same or even worst things but they get labeled as skilled commentary.  That your so dear white colleagues are any better than them.  What have your two white counterparts offered this country but hate and division among ALL AMERICANS.  If you are going to throw a stone at those two men then you need to throw a stone at your white colleagues.  I have never came in here and you guys are bashing one of your beloved own who is fucking up on a daily basis.   Sharprton and Jesse have been wrong for alot of things.  I agree but so have your own.  Like some one that works here said "IF YOUR WHITE YOUR RIGHT".

Received via Email 4-30-07  1st 4/30 "I admire the way Al Sharpton stands up forformer KKK member Senator Byrd (D)."  those democrats !  always fighting amongst themselves.

Received via Email 4-30-07  Received via Email 4-30-07   Ann the realist:  "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to
Christianity."

-- Ann Coulter, National Review Online, September 2001

damn mike enough of your religious bullshit!

Received via Email 5-1-07  YAWN !!!  Wake me up when this rain of drivel has subsided.

Received via Email 5-1-07  Well, actually, I'm not sure that Rush Limbaugh and the Reverend Jesse don't exchange Christmas cards. Think about it, without the other one, both of these guys would be broke. They might have to actually perform some underpaid shit job somewhere, or worse, they could be medics in St. Pete.

Received via Email 5-2-07  The big difference between Rush & Ann and Jesse & Al is that Rush & Ann actually earn their money.  Jesse & Al extort theirs.  Like it or not, that's the truth.  When Jesse and Al learn how to write best selling books and have top rated radio shows (did you even  know that Al Sharpton had a radio show before he decided to torpedo Don Imus?) then maybe we can look at them as being legit.   Until then, they are extortionists that use their self appointed leadership positions to ruin other peoples lives for their own personal gain. 
Love ya,
The Pope of Pinellas County

Received via Email 5-2-07  Rush Limbaugh is the highest rated talk radio host in the world.  He is consistently on the Forbes highest paid list, and was just nominated recently for the Nobel peace prize.  Ann Coulter graduated from Cornell then Michigan Law.  She has had multiple #1 best selling books and  writes a syndicated newspaper column.  They are both quite wealthy based on their hard work and  popularity.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have survived by taking advantage of the perception that blacks are not treated fairly in America.   When they have written books they were mostly bought up by family members before going to the discount section and book store grab bags.  Nobody really cares what these hypocritical clowns have to say which is obvious because nobody pays to hear  them or read about them.  They know how to force the media to cover them because the media knows that they will be called racists if they do not cover these guys when they spew bullshit. There you have it.  That is the difference between success and bullshit.
Tony G.
The Godfather of Pizza

Received via Email 5-2-07  At least Al Sharpton has either been loyal to his wife or discreet with his affairs unlike Jesse Jackson and Martin Luther.

Received via Email 5-2-07  How come black people dont get to vote on THEIR leaders?  Where did Jesse and Al get all this power to attract attention?  If I was  black, I would vote for Bill Cosby.  Damn hes funny.
Powder
The Whitest Guy You Ever Did Meet

Received via Email 5-2-07  I have yet to read anything Ann Coulter has said that I completely disagree with.
The Late Dick Nixon

Received via Email 5-2-07  Ann Coulter, now I'd hit that.
L. Farrakhan

Received via Email 5-2-07  I did not have sex with that woman, Ann Coulter.  But gawl durn it I wooda if I cooda.  Dang she purty.
Bill Clinton
Yesterday in Harlem
PS I really was guilty of all that stuff. Joke's on you, sucka!

Received via Email 5-2-07   Bill Clinton may be barely as smart as Ann Coulter, but he is about the only liberal that even comes close. And look what happened to him.  Impeached. Oh, the shame.

Received via Email 5-2-07  The ACLU, or short for "Anti Christian Lawyers Union."  The ACLU is a danger to the US way of life!  The founder of the ACLU stated back in the early 1900's that "Communism is our goal."  Today they are certainly pushing for "Socialism."  Look it up for yourselves if you don't believe me.

Received via Email 5-5-07  It's true, the ACLU even defended the "North American Man/Boy Love Association"! That should tell you right there how dangerous they are!!

Received via Email 5-5-07  ACLU - Always Concerned - Lacking Understanding.

Received via Email 5-7-07  ACLU       Anti Christian League of the Underground

Received via Email 5-11-07  All C********ers Liars Unit

Received via Email 5-11-07  Enough! of the religious bullshit yum!

Received via Email 5-17-07  screw off you Godless person.   And anyay you should know that the aclu is not religious.  Do your research.

Received via Email 5-19-07  YAWN!

Received via Email 5-20-07  move to Utah! be all you can be!

Received via Email 5-23-07  Utah? Are you making fun of Mormons?

Received via Email 5-24-07  yeah! Morons!

Received via Email 5-26-07  Multiple wives, that would be cool!

Received via Email 5-26-07  not really, it would be multiple times getting nagged.

Received via Email 5-26-07  Good idea: Multiple girlfriends
Bad idea: Multiple wives
It's that simple.
Learning From My Mistakes,
Joseph Smith

Received via Email 5-28-07  Sounds like you need a new wife.

Received via Email 5-31-07  Nah. The wife is fine.  I just need some new funky brown wicked stink pie side action. Awoo.
Joe

Received via Email 6-02-07  I heard that brother!!

Received via Email 6-04-07  Im sure there are plenty on the dept.  as long as you can help them out and overlook their problems

Received via Email 6-04-07  Wicked stink pie side action?  Didn't she used to work at number six?

Received via Email 6-04-07  Master Station now.

Received via Email 6-05-07  what happened to T.W.   she is a *** ***.  I thought we had physical fitness standars.  she couldnt save her self.  Maybe she should push away from the table.
TEAM:  Now, now...  There are no enforceable physical fatness standards & there is no incentive pay or structured down time on a per shift basis for an entire station to work out together.

Received via Email 6-06-07  You don't have to work out together.  She has plenty of time throughout the shift to get in some sort of physical fitness.  It's obvious she hasn't looked at herself in the mirror lately.  I didn't know they made bunker pants that wide. Do they make a size called "short round"?  I would state the old adage of "once they pop out the kid they let themselves go" but she let herself go long ago.  Welcome to the fire dept. of the future.  We accept the invalid, idiotic, incompetent and obese. We are a kinder and gentler dept.....  I'm sorry, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.

Received via Email 6-06-07  Like she is the only one that is not up to the standard. We could have a whole page with the list of names. Look at two of three union officials.

Received via Email 6-06-07  how about the men at Fossil ?? not the smallest gang

Received via Email 6-06-07  I'm sure that wasn't a typo because "physical fatness" is correct.  People, have a little self respect.  Do you enjoy being out of breath by just walking to the third floor?  Push away from the table only one helping per meal is sufficient.

Received via Email 6-06-07  I can remember a time when we as a station used to go to to a local pool, every shift in the sumer.  I'd also like to see this department take physical fitness more seriously.  If they did, then maybe I would!

Received via Email 6-06-07  We do not workout on duty we are to busy trying to find a training color in the book. How about a color for physical fitness?????

Received via Email 6-08-07  It would be pink, just like your taco.  WAH WAH WAH, I'm too busy.  I'll bet you find time to plant your ass in front of the TV after 1700.  LAZY!

Received via Email 6-09-07  Remember the new hires, hired many years ago. Many of them weighed about 150 when they came on and now many of them are around 250 lbs + some twenty years later.  What are the new (fat) breed, going to do, since they came on the job at 250, guess they'll be about 400 lbs in twenty years. I say, the training div needs to do a better job at hiring fit firefighters, not the fat and sloppy ones !  This may help.  

Received via Email 6-09-07  Hey who's turn is it to bring the bear claws?

Received via Email 6-10-07  Not a training advocate but they no longer in charge who we hire. Big bird is downtown. We need to hire anything that has a pulse who is a minority or medic. Sometimes we get lucky sometimes we strike out. If you do not believe me take a look at the last couple of probie classes.

Received via Email 6-10-07  "Pink like your taco"  LOLOL
Larry Flynt

Received via Email 6-11-07  6-10-07 so what white firefighters are the most fit.  What is your beef with minoritys.  You think white people are the only ones that can do this job?  Its funny you shoot your mouth In here but you would never shoot your mouth off to one of those minorities.  How is it that BIGBIRD is hiring every minority when for every one black, asian, hispanic or female, 10 white males firefighter are being hired with a group within this department.  Dont go and say that the minoritys that they are hiring are not qualified because the only thing you need is a certificate of compliance certification.  Lets take a look at the past probie classes.  I came on in 2002 in my group of 9 there were only 2 minorities.  There was a group after me.  In that group there were on 14 firefighters 1 black (TR#11) and 2 woman (TB,JA).  In the last five yrs we have hired over I would say 50 firefighters and 10 of those firefighters were black (FS#3C, JV#5B, TR#11C, LM#10B, LW#9, DS#11B, OLIVER (A SHIFT PROBIE)WILLIE( A SHIFT PROBIE) and the 2 new hires.  The Woman TB#1C, JA#6C, SS#1A, LW#9, A SHIFT PROBIE,JM#8B PROBIE.  One other young lady that decided to go to HFR.  7 woman out of 50 firefighters.  You show me where the minoritys are getting the jobs.  What I hate about this that you come in here and spew this crap about the minoritys being hired and those numbers right there show the disparity.   Why is there so much disparity in these numbers?  This fire department has was more racist to hiring minoritys before we came on so what do you think those numbers were like then.  It was a 1 to 10 ratio.  Wow us minoritys have moved up to a whooping 2 to 10 ratio and you come in here and try to pit the other white firefighters against us to say that its our fault why things are messed up. YOUR RIGHT, TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAST COUPLE OF PROBIE CLASSES.  TAKE A LOOK AT THE 5 YRS.    BETTER YET LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THIS DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO HIRING MINORITIES.     

Received via Email 6-11-07  6-10 My ratios were wrong it was a 1 to 5 ratio.  Sorry.

Received via Email 6-13-07  Hey piss ant, there is no beef with minorities Do you keep a diary of minorities hired? We do drop standards for some like AW#9B. She has missed more calls than she has been on. She has been in front of several discipline boards and we continue to deal with it. You tell me why.

Received via Email 6-13-07  1 to 5 seems a little too high.  Although St. Petersburg is approximately 22% black, America is about 12%.  Looks to me like some of you have to go.  On the other hand, America is mostly female at 51% so maybe we need to hire another 125 chicks.  This is fine with  me, because I have got some seniority, I am single, and I can still throw some pretty smooth swerves on the ladies if you know what I mean.  Now if you will excuse me I have to go get the ladies room ready for the demographic shift.
TEAM:  Thanks for the 'heads-up', suntan superman!  We're sure the firechicks dig ya'.

Received via Email 6-14-07  If there isnt any beef then why make a comment like that?  If you feel that way about AW say it to her face instead of saying it in here.  You wont because you are cowards.  Your BIG when you are in here pushing keyboards but you dont have the balls to say anything to their faces.  For one their is no diary but their is so few of US how could you not know one another.  I,m going to say it again you would never say any of the things that you bring up in here to anyone on this department because you are cowards.  I will leave my name when you leave your name.

Received via Email 6-14-07  If you go by national census there should be more Hispanics than blacks on the department, as they have replaced blacks as the dominant minority in the US.  Funny, I don't hear the Hispanics on this department bitching about more members of their demographic needing to be hired.  Your not being oppressed and you're owed nothing so get over it.  Grow a pair, do your job and quit bitching about the color or sex of the person sitting next to you. 

Received via Email 6-16-07  I want some of them little asians to get hired on the job and I will tell you why.  Since Kahle got promoted we don't have anyone  teeny enough to crawl through tight attics. And speaking of that, how come we don't have any midgets?  Midgets are hot.  I don't  know what the midget demographic is locally, but we are certainly under-utilizing them.  Those little sons of bitches.  They would  look so cute in bunker gear.  Cute little bunker gear wearing sons of bitches.  You know that show on cable with the family of midgets?  I think the mom has got it going on.  If we hired her I would make her a little bed and make a little ladder for her to climb in it with.  It would be fun to see her chubby little legs climb the little ladder.  I would treat her like a queen because she is so special.  Small, but special.  But make no mistake about it, she could hold her own.  I know she could.  Anyone that says she can't has to answer to me. Unless that person is tougher than me. In that case he can answer to somebody else. Preferably somebody bigger and more intimidating than me.  Truth be known, I am not that big.  But a hot midget would make me appear bigger than I am, and I would like that.  But seriously,  leave my little dwarf alone.  I wonder if she swings?  Man, is she cute.  I  can't stand it.  Her smile lights up her entire tiny little head.  Actually, her head isn't that tiny.  Its her torso and cute little chubby  ass legs that are all tiny like.  Her head is perfect. Mucho perfecto. Man I sure wish we could hire some dwarfs.   Hoo boy.  I like em small.  Hey T Witt, have you ever done a midget?  Teach us Witt.  Teach us.
Thanks,
Big Mike
TEAM:  Thanks, we needed that!

Received via Email 6-16-07  Is it wrong, that I just got a chubby reading that post about little people. And when you asked T Witt if he has ever done a midget. Did you mean he is a little person?  I love that guy he's funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Received via Email 6-16-07   You love T. Witt?

Received via Email 6-17-07  I love T Witt especially when he  comes out of the shower with his harry body it turns me on so much

Received via Email 6-18-07  EEWWW!

Received via Email 6-19-07  I Love T. Watt

Received via Email 6-19-07  Be careful.  You don't want to get T. Witt posted on the DCFD website as their new Florida Idol.

Received via Email 6-19-07  God Bless the crew of nine that gave their lifes in Charleston yesterday, as well as their families.

Received via Email 6-19-07  Amen to the sentiment regarding the 9 losses to families in Charleston.  I met several Charleston firefighters a few years ago when my father was injured there in a building collapse. They did an amazing job triaging my father's incident, so I am certain  that whatever could have been done for these unfortunate heroes was done well, even under the worst of conditions.  

Losing anyone to a fire is the realization of our worst nightmares.  I can't imagine the pain for a community, it's families, and particularly it's surviving firefighters as they come to grips with the loss of 9 of their own.  Let's all be sure to take a moment to  be grateful to still be among those that love us, and to still be working alongside men and women who would sacrifice their lives for yours and mine. 

May God bless Charleston FD, as well as SPFR.  May he keep us all safe.

Still proud to be in this business,
David Fraser

Received via Email 6-19-07  With this tragedy in SC, the DCFD will be chartering a bus load of members to travel down to pay our respects to the families of the fallen nine brothers, hopefully we will see some of the SPFR members there as well. I have confirmation FDNY will be sending bus "loads" of members down.

Received via Email 6-20-07  Hey DCFD,  we obviously have bigger issues going on here at SPRF than showing respect to 9 brothers that lost thier lives doing the job we all thought we would shovel shit to have.  We have to proof read other FF's paragrahs, Bitch about other FF's working at a slower stations,  Who's not cleaning the shiters when thier suppose to.  We dont deserve to show are faces in front of the 9 men that lost thier lives doing the job we all should be grateful to have.  When push comes to shove, sounds like your Dept. cares about brotherhood.  I will bet you any amount of money, there will be "0" SPFR representing.  Please send our regrets.

Received via Email 6-21-07  Thats too bad, I was looking forward to meeting some of you guys. A few beers could have been shared discussing the good and bad of this crazy career choice we all made.

I know the feeling I had when we lost a few men back in the nineties, by having firemen from around the country come and pay respects to my friends and co-workers, You cant describe it until you live it, which hopefully none of us will ever have to again.

Received via Email 6-21-07  Tried to get time off to go. Denied, books are full, no one swaps anymore. Maybe I will call in sick to go up north.

Received via Email 6-21-07  Will be there in spirt, and brotherhood/sisterhood. Bless then and their families, and thanks for representing those of us that can't make it there..

Received via Email 6-21-07  I'd love to go but my dress blue's (pants, shirt, tie, jacket, hat and shoes) haven't arrived yet.  I hope they come quicker than some people's exit interview's.

Received via Email 6-21-07  Does anyone know if the honor guard is going?  Surely they can at least send the honor guard to South Carolina.
TEAM:  Did you see the news this evening?  Clearwater is sending three of their HG to South Carolina.  Cudo's to them!

Received via Email 6-21-07  WOw, 6.21 #2, there really isnt any brotherhood there is it?

Received via Email 6-21-07  dont worry I am sure cuppy or prince will be there

Received via Email 6-22-07  It's Cubby....not Cuppy, you had your b's inverted dude or dudette

Received via Email 6-25-07  Damn, those DC guys do back up their words and do things right up north. I pulled this off of thier website. I for one am ashamed of our department today not doing the right thing. We as a union need to get our heads out of our asses and begin doing whats right. God forbid something like this happens here.

Here is the article: 

Several dozen active and retired firefighters along with Fire Chief Dennis L. Rubin from the DC Fire Department attended the memorial service in Charleston S.C yesterday (6/22) for the nine firefighters, who died in the of duty Monday night at a building fire in Charleston.

Over 10,000 firefighters throughout country filled the North Charleston Coliseum as  Mayor Joseph P. Riley, of Charleston, Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff and Charleston Fire Chief Russell R. Thomas Jr. praised the nine firefighters who made the supreme sacrifice on Monday night.

As the nine caskets of the fallen firefighters were loaded in the hearses one by one, firefighters stood at attention.

With members of the Department looking on, Fire Chief Dennis L. Rubin gave a check in the amount of $45.000.00  to Chief Thomas.

Hundreds of people visited the location where the nine firefighters were killed.The green tape is the location where the nine firefighters were killed.

Received via Email 6-25-07 **Received via Email 6-21-07  WOw, 6.21 #2, there really isn't any brotherhood there is it? What fu**in rock did you come out from under? Are you a disgruntled former sunstar guy? A medic that hates anything to do with the Family Firefighter brothers & sister's represent? Go back from where you came, or retire, or just take the big Skyway Out, I'll drop the dollor for you.

Received via Email 6-27-07  Hats off to DC.   Maybe we can learn a thing or two from them. 

Received via Email 6-29-07  After hearing about requests from our honor guard and other firefighters as well being turned down reguarding attending the 9 fallen brothers' service, I was actually embarrased to even be an employee with SPFR.  Several friends and family asked if I was able to go, and if not, how many did we send.  NOT 1!!!!!  Over 10,000 firefighters from across the country attended this service and not one had an SPFR patch on their sleeve. That is absolutely pathetic. I won't even wear a any type of fd tee shirt in public at this time because of the "sorry to hear about your fallen brothers in Carolina" comments knowing that our Accredited - nationally known - largest department in the county is too fu**ing cheap to honor our fallen brothers. Talk about a kick in the ass. Right after 9/11, our Local had a boot drive and collected over $250,000.00 for that cause. I don't recall what SPFR did. Maybe someone could enlighten me. Oh wait- I think they let us wear our uniforms off duty for the Baseball game/Dome event.
Well I hope these new employees we are hiring see what this Department is all about.

Received via Email 6-29-07  Was anyone actually told they could not go to the funerals?  I doubt many of those 10,000 firefighters present were on department  sponsored holidays from their cities.  You want to show respect?  Great.  Now find some swap time, fill up your car and go.  This  department doesn't really need to hold your hand everywhere you go, does it?

Received via Email 6-29-07  Someones feathers are ruffled.  Sounds alot like a decision maker.

Received via Email 6-29-07  6/29, #2, Wow get HQ's collective d**k's out of your mouth! While going to the funeral is something anyone could have done, the point stated was NO ONE FROM THIS CHICKEN SH-- outfit went, period..The color guard should have gone, maybe the firefighter of the year, PM, at least our department could have shown a little bit of respect by, "sponsoring" members to go.. Now, go brush your teeth, spunk boy..

Received via Email 6-29-07  Me doth think you misseth the pointeth.  CLEARWATER FD SENT 3 MEMBERS OF THEIR HONOR GUARD.  SPF&R SENT DICK!  And "yes" we probably could have done better at the personal level, but big brother didn't do shit!

Received via Email 6-30-07  " If you don't like your job......then quit ! " Can anyone tell me the name of the Lt. that used to say this alot ?
TEAM:  Comments like those tend to make us want to work harder...
























Received via Email 7-01-07  The point is that YOU did not go. And while you sat at home doing nothing to show respect for the fallen brothers, you bitched and moaned about how your department did not send you or anyone else.  Grow a pair missy.  Now read close as I ask the same  question I asked you before:  This  department doesn't really need to hold your hand everywhere you go, does it?  And here is a new  question for you: What kind of  a lazy little queen bitches about a department that fails to show the same respect that she lacks?  I  did not go either, but you don't hear me blaming the chief.  Seriously you need to find your balls.

Received via Email 7-01-07  It was a awesome sight to see firemen from across this country coming together. The sight of the FDNY and their bagpipers, the best there is, in force all the while knowing one of thier brothers died the day before back in Brooklyn. We all left from South Carolina and headed home, some had to get off the bus to work a tour and others got on and headed straight to new york city for another funeral.

You have to want to do this for our fallen. You cant wait for your city to send you, pull together as a group, as a brotherhood and do it yourselves. Our union paid for the buses, we paid for the food and refreshments. Money well spent to honor the fallen. It is sad you guys cant come together even for a casue like this, I cant imagine you ever coming together for the betterment of your own department.

Received via Email 7-01-07  Ouch.  I hate it when out of towners make this much sense.

Received via Email 7-01-07  Yeah ouch.  I'm just wondering what's so interesting to out of towners about our little shitbag fire department in our little shitbag city.  Our own city council doesn't give us this much attention and they already lick the taint!

Received via Email 7-02-07  Dear Miss. Prissy,, aka 7/1-#1. My balls are here is full force. yeah I didn't go, summertime children activities, family. I did what I could, maybe you should stop your co-- suckin, bitchin', and be a man, women, adult..
THE IAFF CHARLESTON FIRE FIGHTERS JUNE 18 FUND
c/o IAFF General Secretary-Treasurer's Office
1750 New York Avenue, Suite 300
Washington, DC 20006

Now, go get a reach around before your puckerin' bung hole becomes as big as your speculating mouth! who's still the bitch?

Received via Email 7-02-07  This department has hired some real KNUCKLE DRAGGERS.  It's a shame that the impression others get of a once fine department is based on a few moronic mouthy fools like 7/2/07-#1.  Since he and those like him are the majority of those who post here it's only natural that outsiders and those who stumble onto this site accidentally wonder what planet we hire from.  You sir are a DISGRACE TO THE FIRE SERVICE and no matter how much you swear or offer obscenities in your defense you will still be a disgrace.  You offer your intelligence and your maturity up for all to see and there's not much there.  I, for one, would hope you never advance farther than you already have in the fire service.  You're a LOSER and there's no denying it.  Please, please leave the department and go back to whatever it was you were doing before you mistakenly were hired to be part of the most distinguished and proud profession in the world.  And take the others who think and act like you with you.  Frankly we're sick of listening to all of you. 

Received via Email 7-02-07  I will answer your question 7/1 #4. My friends work there, so i am always interested in them and their well being. They directed me towards this site, so out of curosity, I stop in from time to time. Im very much into the job, and am interested in departments around the country. Its all in the name of brotherhood.

Received via Email 7-03-07  I wasn't aware that you spoke for all 300+ of us 7/02/#2.There is a very liberal use of profanity here on this site. Yes it isn't too adult. BUT you should know, that anyone can get to this page.Your reaction to the other's rebuttal of your post was, well asked for. When you made the crack about not expecting respect or support form the management, what did you write, "grow a pair, find your balls"?

Maybe your part loser too, disgraceful? Well you did a good job of that. I pray your never my officer.. Open your mind,stop looking for excuses to your issues..FTM! They owe you

Received via Email 7-03-07  To 7/2 #1: Regarding the question that you asked as a conclusion to your barely intelligible tirade; the answer is you. You are the  bitch.  We all assumed that you knew but since you asked it only seemed fair to answer politely and with expedience.  To  reiterate, you my  friend are the bitch.  I hope pointing this out to you in here does not embarrass you or create a wave of  uneasiness in the ocean of our friendship.   Thank you for not being just my bitch but everyones bitch, bitch.   Your friend and favorite ramrod,
Blackie McBlackerson

Received via Email 7-03-07  thia place is better than comedy central..

Received via Email 7-03-07  OK Blackie,
Make sure you return that big ole dictionary to the shelf at the mental heath clinic...

Love Sig Freud..(the references to,"us" confirms multiple personalities..Did you hate your Father?)

Received via Email 7-08-07  The Washington Dc Fire Depart has just had a line of duty death......any word from our resident DCFD sgt?

Received via Email 7-08-07  Here is what I found.....may God bless this man and his family

Fireman dies of heart attack
By Natasha Altamirano
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 8, 2007

McRae

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A D.C. firefighter died while on duty early yesterday morning of a suspected heart attack — the department's first on-duty loss in eight years.

Firefighter James McRae III, 34, started complaining of chest pains and difficulty breathing about 12:30 a.m. yesterday, fire department spokesman Alan Etter said.

Mr. McRae, a tillerman on Truck 12 at Engine 20 on Wisconsin Avenue in Northwest, was taken to Sibley Memorial Hospital, where it was determined that he was having a heart attack. He then was taken in a Medevac helicopter to Washington Hospital Center, where he died around 4:30 a.m., Mr. Etter said.

Mr. McRae, a nearly 16-year veteran of the department, was not known to previously have suffered any medical problems, Mr. Etter said.

"He never experienced any kind of cardiac problem," he said. "He seemed fine. He was always smiling. He always had a good word to say."

The highest percentage of on-duty firefighter fatalities in the U.S. are due to sudden cardiac death, according to a recent study published by the National Fire Protection Association. Of the 89 U.S. firefighter deaths last year, 34 were caused by sudden cardiac death, according to an association report.

"Sudden cardiac death, most often the result of heart attack, is typically the leading nature of injury and usually accounts for close to half of the total on-duty deaths," the report said.

"This is a job that's very physically demanding, and it's emotionally demanding, which adds to a level of stress that can negatively impact people," Mr. Etter said.

McRae responded to some medical emergencies and a fire alarm Friday night, Mr. Etter said.

His death is considered an on-duty death under a U.S. Department of Justice program that provides benefits to families of public-safety officials who are killed in the line of duty or die of a heart attack or stroke within 24 hours of a public-service act.

Mr. McRae has a 9-year-old daughter. His mother and father live in the District, Mr. Etter said.

The department has not yet finalized plans for a memorial service, Mr. Etter said.

"We're still shaken by what happened," he said. "This is very jarring."

The last D.C. firefighter died on duty in June 1999, Mr. Etter said. That year, three firefighters died while on duty, he said.

Received via Email 7-10-07  Wow you guys and girls are absolutely incredible.

Received via Email 7-10-07  Condolences to our brothers and sisters in DC.  It's hard to lose anyone, but a 34 year old to a heart attack---that's just not fair.   I think the rest of our department will allow me to become their spokesman for this occasion when I offer our most heartfelt sympathy to the brothers and sisters of Firefighter McRae from DCFD, and of course to the rest of his family.  We will certainly  have a special thought for his 9 year old daughter as well.  No child deserves to lose a father, not at that age.

Again, we feel for your loss and pray for the healing of the hearts and souls wounded by this tragic loss.


Most Sincerely,
David Fraser
SPFR, 9/C

Received via Email 7-22-0Thank you David Fraser for your kind words. The memorial servies for our fallen brother was nice, well attended by firemen from around the country. I happened to ask some "why" they came so far, and the biggest reasons I heard was "tradition" and "you guys protect my government, and without that even as bad as it is, we are nothing". IF any of you made it, Thank you, but I dont recall seeing any St. Petersburg patches.

Received via Email 7-22-07  Isn't there enough going on in the nation's shittiest city that will keep you f***wads out of our business?  I mean... are you guys gay for us or what?  Listen, some of you might want to retire down here or something someday and that's cool.  In the meantime, why don't you start telling us your from FDNY or something so that we can start appreciating you.  We've got shitloads of NY guys down here and we get along with all of them.  How come you guys are so hung on being professional victims?

Oh-- and thanks for the backhanded thank you.  F**k you very much.

Suntan Superman (professional victim ass pumper)

Received via Email 7-23-07  Only a narrow minded asshole would take my statement as a backhanded slap. I can only imagine what it feels like to work with fireman like yourself, it must be a real treat for the real firemen of a great city of St. Petersburg to have to be associated with the likes of you 7.22.07 #2.

Received via Email 7-24-07  Pretty funny comment about the NYC guys.  Yeah, your right.  You never hear shit from those guys.  They do their job, retire, come down here and become our drinking buddies.  DC on the other hand... we're from the gov't and we're here to help (f**k) you.  Professional victims - ROTFLMAO

Received via Email 7-24-07  It seems to me that the DC guy generally means well.  No doubt, the comment about the lack of St. Pete patches at the funeral in Carolina could be taken wrong, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt.  He has friends on our job, so I will give him the respect that any friend of one of our brothers or sisters deserves.  Now play nice.

Received via Email 7-24-07  7-22 #2. You should really consider seeking some professional help because you are REALLY f--ked up.

Received via Email 7-25-07  Enough with the tossing of the bag of crap back and forth between SPF&R and the brothers in Washington, DC.  First of all it's old and worn out and most of us are sick of reading it.  The brother from DC made a statement;  "IF any of you made it, Thank you, but I don't recall seeing any St. Petersburg patches".  A simple enough statement and as far as I know quite truthful.  What is it with you people who have to try to read something into every post that isn't there?  Those of you who entertain that attitude are surely not the mojority on this job.  Did anyone go to DC?  Did the department send anyone to DC?  The answer to both questions is a loud NO.  So the brother from DC is absolutely correct in his assessment of whether or not there were any SPF&R patches in plain view for all to see.  This isn't a slap and it isn't a lie.  It's a fact.  I for one am getting sick of a handful of morons with big mouths and small brains who think they speak for the whole department.  You don't speak for me and you obviously don't speak for brother Fraser and those who have compasion.  Please keep you're small minded drivel to yourself when you start to get the feeling you have to post a response for every posting on this board.  We're sick of reading it.

Fraternally,
VCF

Received via Email 7-28-07  To the men and women of DC, one ot two don't speak for all of us. Most likely the people that lash out at you as well as others on this site are just upset over years of NOT having there made up stories published in Penthouse Forum, so hang in there and know that there are alot of us that feel just as you do about our jobs. God Bless you, your families, this country and the people that we serve.

Received via Email 7-28-07  Dont bless ALL of the people we serve.  Some of them are a-holes.

Received via Email 7-29-07  Sorry you feel that way, get help..........

Received via Email 7-29-07  Thank you 7.24.07 #2, VCF and 7.28.07.....true brothers in every sense of the word. DOnt worry, we have some just like the ones you mention as well. It always easy to see who they are, bitch the most and do the least.

Received via Email 7-30-07  That is true. I really see myself in that comment.  I bitch a lot, and I hardly do jackshit around the station.  Thank you 7/29 #2.   Thank you.  I now realize the error of my ways.  Now go fix me a sandwich, beyotch!

Received via Email 7-30-07  Man oh man.  You guys must have tennis elbow from patting yourselves on the back.  I KNOW you guys are so much better than us because you keep telling us so.  "DOnt worry, we have some just like the ones you mention as well."  If that's the case, then you're just as normal or just as fu**ed up as us, so why are you guys so gay for us?  It's like you guys keep making yourselves THE STORY!  Forgive me for noticing, but 'we're' noticeably absent from 'your' bitching site.  In other words, we don't come whoring around the watchdesk looking for you guys - inserting ourselves into your local politics.

Received via Email 8-16-07  MASTER STATION, the 8th busiest station in the country in 2006.
TEAM:  Depending upon the number of respondents...

Received via Email 8-18-07  MFS - 17,000 runs per year.  WOW - wait a minute!    17,000 divided by nine units equals 1889 calls per year.  Wow, they are about half what # 13 is.    Sounds like the MFS is more like 8000th in the country if you do per unit calls.   Get a grip downtown kids - you aint really as great as you think you are!

Received via Email 8-19-07  Yeah, Yeah...13 is soo great.  Like I want to work with the same 3 bitching manginas my whole carer.

Received via Email 8-19-07  YEAH BUSY WITH DRUNKS  #  13 OR #7 RUNS THE REAL CALLS

Received via Email 8-19-07  Real calls?  I think someone at the Bone Sucker needs you to clean their bed pan.  Please be sure not to wreck the truck on the way.  

Received via Email 8-20-07  Sounds like 8/19 #3 wants to do some bone sucking.  Come and get it, beyotch. But first go make me a sandwich.

Received via Email 8-20-07  i pitty the public if you guys are 1/2 as bad as you sond on this site

Received via Email 8-20-07  That comment hit home for you didn't it?   "Come and get it."  OOOHHH, Big man.  Is that the best you can do?  Sad..

Received via Email 8-21-07  17,000 runs for 8 units and thats busy? Engine 10 of DCFD has run 10,000 runs a year themselves already, and were number one in the country many times, BUT none of that shit matters, as long as the same number of men that leave on the piece returns on the piece after the run.

We will see you guys in New York City this week for the funerals of the two fireman who died battling the abandoned building located at ground zero this weekend right? That magical number 343 that everyone proudly wears as if saying "they will never forget" just changed to 345....this building should have been torn down long ago, but politics and money interfered and now two more fireman are dead. These deaths are directly related to that day and those assholes actions.

May these men join their brothers in heaven and enjoy a big cup of coffee, sit around the kitchen table and tell the other 343 that most of us haven't forgotten them and never will.

May God bless these men and thier families.

Received via Email 8-21-07  Oooh! How painful I must say!  8/20 #2, although well intentioned with his "I am better than you" statement, has made two horrible spelling errors.  Pity has but one "t" and there is a "u" in the word sound.  Go back to school, dumbass.
The Spelling Guy
(Not affiliated with Mr. Grammar)

Received via Email 8-21-07  Things must be really good down there in St.Pete if all there is to do is correct spelling and grammar.
TEAM:  It's what we do when it gets hot down here.  How's the wx in Canton Ga.?

Received via Email 8-22-07  St. Pete must be a great place to work as a firefighter, palm trees, beaches, and little bitty structure fires.  Can I retire and work down there.  I never see anything but whining on this site.  If this was a real fire department like NY, Chicago, LA or Houston there would probably be a lot more firefighting talk and unfortunately sad stories of real firefighters who work for a living.  Guess lifes just a big beach in St Pete.  Go Go Go  tough guys!
TEAM:  We've got a suggestion for you.  Why don't you grab the latest copy of Firehouse magazine and your favorite tube sock and take them both under the covers with you.  You can imagine yourself on one of the big red trucks with the big firemen that fight the big fires in all the cities that are bigger than St. Petersburg.

Q.  What's more pathetic... the whiner or the guy who spends his days reading - then commenting on what the whiners have to say?

Received via Email 8-22-07  8-22-07 Team.....whats more funny is watching you and others try to defend your faggity ass antics. You know, and now unfortunately for your dept, now the world knows your not real firemen, your whiney ass, non brotherhood EMS workers. I have never seen any men speak of GAY tendencies as often as I have on this site. If you dont want the real fireman from the big cities reading your site, make it private, make it for St Pete faggots only, the real firemen will read other real fire department pages then, if you cant do that, pour yourself a big cup of S.T.F.U.
TEAM:  Bask in the moment.  Your words were printed on a little website that serves others but not yourself.  Now kiss your wife and kids and tell them of your great accomplishment before you leave for the day.  There can be no better feeling.

Received via Email 8-22-07  Hey D.C., I talked to you before,  we wont go to nine FF funerals what makes you think we are going to just two. We have FF's die in our own state that we dont pay our respects to. Dont let the children of this dept. get to you.  We may not be a big city that everybody has heard of, but we have had or time in the barrel.  Most of our fires may be small occupances, but I have the melted gear and the burns to prove that not only big fire hurt FF's.  I personnely feel that you are not a faggot,  most of us just dont think of firehouse life when our 24 hr is done, but we get angry sitting on these computer when some of the bills aren't getting paid.  If you would have met this dept. 10 years ago, I know you would have been impressed. I feel bad for the new guys, back when I was inmature, I worked for a city seemed to really like its F.D.
P.S. I hope my spelling was up to everones standard, i didnt proffread.
TEAM:  To the above poster - someone in the neighborhood of Ottsville PA. (Lat/Long  :  40.4698, -75.1636) responded to your message, on Aug 23, 2007 1:34:39 pm.  While generally entertaining, we promised some time ago, not to feed the trolls... 

Received via Email 8-23-07  No need to worry when we have GRAMMAR GUY around, hell until he showed up on the scene I thought it was spelled GRAMMER GUY, but he has shown me my wicked ways and how to overlook what the obviuos message is and go right to trying to spell it the right way. Now I don't care what the message is and I still don't spell right. Thank GOD we have him and we should all try to strive to meet his standards even though we all know we never will.

Received via Email 8-23-07  My pension's not as good as most around here.  I can't afford to feed the trolls.  Bad troll, bad troll.

Received via Email 8-23-07  hey I don't if i'm bad grammer guy or not ! but i do know i was in this because i wanted to help my fellow man not to suck my way to the top ! you people sicken me. all i know is that when you make LT you lose your spine and when you make Capt you lose your balls and when you make D/C you lose your brains

Received via Email 8-24-07  "hey I don't if i'm bad grammer guy or not"  I think it goes beyond bad grammer. Me thinks you plane igornarant.
TEAM:  "hey I don't if i'm bad grammer guy or not"  Not knowing, is just the start.  Actually, you're the missing word guy.  Thread now officially closed.

Received via Email 8-24-07  I am going to be honest with you guys here.  I find you all absolutely adorable!

Big Queer
San Francisco Fire Department

Received via Email 8-26-07  You too?! Oh My GOD!! These St. Pete boys are absolutely
FAB-U-LOUS!!!

Even Bigger Queer
Key West Fire Department
We ride fire trucks AND each other.
P.S.  We simply ADORE our new chief!!

Received via Email 8-26-07  I'm confused. Did our ex chief go queer?

Received via Email 8-29-07  Well what do you expect.  All he did was hang out with guys and get them drunk.

Received via Email 8-29-07  I guess that explains why he was so anxious to get down there to Key West.  Go figure.

Received via Email 8-30-07  Hey dickweed, he did more than just hang out with us and get us drunk.  He also hung around fire stations and called it work.   Well, some fire stations.   If he liked the guys.  Well, he hung around the stations of the 4 or  5 guys he liked.  Hang on, wait a  second. He hung out at a couple of fire houses on certain shifts instead of working.  No wait that sounds bad.  He sometimes  would eat for free at suck up stations instead of working.  Crap.  This is getting worse.  He sometimes would knock off early and  crash at a firehouse.  No way thats even true.  I don't think.  How about this, he sometimes would show up to work drunk. Shit.  That's not fair or proveable. He did lots of stuff.  He would load up on breath mints and go carry the mayors water.  Aw shit  again, forget I said that one.  I am not even sure what it means to carry somebodys water.  Or tonic.  But he was true to his  emotions. Like when he got mad at someone he would not just brush it off, he would let it grind into his soul forever so he could  make that person uncomfortable for the rest of their career.  Now THAT is loyalty. "Grudge" means loyalty. I think. Also he was  tall.  Like Abraham Lincoln.  That should be worth something. There.  There are some good qualities to think about.

Chief Cheerleader
Only trying to help

Received via Email 8-30-07  5 o'clock somewhere baby !!

Received via Email 8-30-07  Heheheheee. He called me "Baby"!

Received via Email 8-31-07  To 8-30 #1: Your post was a joy to read. It was humorous in an indirect way and it was refreshing to read a post that was well thought out. All of you take note on how the sentence structure flowed; it makes reading these posts that much easier and enjoyable. I am not the “Grammar Guy”, but I know good punctuation when I see it. Although you would not get a 100% for punctuation, thank you for your effort and keep up the good work.

Received via Email 8-31-07  Who's kissing the Grammar Guy's butt now ?

Received via Email 8-31-07  first 8/31. That comment is right on. It says it all.

Received via Email 8-31-07  1st 8/31. The third and fourth sentences are incomplete sentences. "Well, some fire stations." Well, some fire stations - What? incomplete. That is only the beginning. You gave a 100% for punctuation? I wish I had teachers like you when I went to elementary school. That is where basic grammer is taught. It was a nice thought though. Heck, you even received an E ribbon. Come back grammer guy, we need you desperately.
TEAM:  The other guy got an "E" Battle Ribbon for his nice sentiments.

Received via Email 9-01-07  This is getting old.

Received via Email 9-01-07  YES IT IS

Received via Email 9-02-07  Still no midgets in the academy from what I hear. When will this conspiracy end?

Received via Email 9-02-07  Once again...OLD!!

Received via Email 9-02-07  Old. Young. Fat. Thin. I don't care, I just like them small. Bring me my damn midgets.

Received via Email 9-04-07  Use some of that hard earned money you'll get on thursday and go to one of our local adult clubs and get yourself a little one. Then maybe you could leave the childish BS off this site.

Received via Email 9-04-07  Don't you mean, "BRING ME THE FOAM MIDGET!!!!!" (You had to be there to understand)

Received via Email 9-04-07  9/4 #1 is a pervert. The midget guy is probably just joking around but 9/4 seems to cruise the world of seedy whore houses and freak shows.
He is twisted. Just plain twisted.

Received via Email 9-04-07  I want a fatty firewoman. more cushin

Received via Email 9-04-07  I think that Grammar Guy is the Mayor !

Received via Email 9-05-07  Old "Moose Knuckle" at his finest.

Received via Email 9-05-07  You COULD tthink that if you thought he actually visited this site.  He has others do it for him, so he doesn't have to take the time to read.  He doesn't even wipe his own ass.  He has wannabe deputy mayor's wipe it.

Received via Email 9-05-07  You know how porn stars use puffer girls? Thats how the mayor uses Goliath.

Received via Email 9-06-07  Allrightynow.......someone tell me how the senior man at No.3 got moved out of the station that he thought he was going to retire from.  Was it the crew?  Was it the officer?  Did he piss off management?  Did air conditioning have anything to do with it?  Could it be that he told management to shove it up their ass when they asked to use the Honor Guard to make THEM look good at a muckety muck chief's meeting?

Maybe MB had the right idea at the last union meeting.  Shitcan the dept. patches.  Shitcan the dept. badges.  Buy new uniforms and replace the patches and brass with something that reads - I.A.F.F.  F**k having to beg the MUTTS for anything remotely having to do with BROTHERHOOD!

Who made these comments?  "South Carolina?  We don't have the money in the budget to send members of the Honor Guard to South Carolina.  We don't normally go to "every" firefighter fatality, do we?"  No.  We wait for a round number, like 10!  G_D are we F**KED!

FTM!  We're kidding ourselves if we think any of those dinks in the paper palace have got a clue beyond their own bank statement.  FTM!

Received via Email 9-06-07  Word on the street is the person from 3 got due to medical reasons. Apparently his officer and DC's were concerned about his health and thought he needed to slow down. I agree. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for this man and appreciate all he has done for this department, but it might be time to slow it down a little. I don't believe this had anything to do with the honor guard incident. Regardless, the station he was moved to has an opening and needs a person with his qualifications. My guess is if he tries it out for a month or so he'll probably like it.

Received via Email 9-06-07  Can we stage a coup of the paper palace people and get rid of them?

Received via Email 9-06-07  Look at the top two in the paper palace! Did they ever have brotherhood? Ever??

Received via Email 9-06-07  Well the holidays will be here shortly and guess who`s working them again? That`s right the B-shift. Thanks Winnie for nothing.no shift change that would be fair to all and crappy raises.What have you done? The score Baker 3 Newton zilch

Received via Email 9-07-07   **Allrightynow.......someone tell me how the senior man at No.3 got moved out of the station that he thought he was going to retire from. Was it the crew? Was it the officer? Did he piss off management?
Bottom line at SPFR, when you reach a certain number of years here, and your not a kiss ass, or suck up LT or listed one, you become a liability to this chicken shit outfit. Then, their thought pattern, we have heard too much from that old timer. Where can we ship him/her...13? Attention all members with 20+years, watch your ass!

Received via Email 9-07-07  Hey dickhead b shifter. You had two years without holidays. You all call in sick anyway so the A shift really works.

Received via Email 9-07-07  COUGH...Holidays? COUGH...What Holidays?

Received via Email 9-07-07  When are you B shifters going to stop whining like girls about the holidays? There is always a way off on Christmas. Ever hear of swapping with the younger guys with no families? Get over it you freaking pansies.

Received via Email 9-08-07  The B shift never whined before, until Callahan brought the whole holiday issue up front. If you look at all holidays including Christmas but not just Christmas, it evens out. Of course someone like Callahan felt sorry for the B shift because he was a B shifter, and he always was a whiner, even when he was a blue shirt. I am a retired B shifter and I never heard of such crap when I was on. Grow up new kids !!

Received via Email 9-08-07  The whining from the B shift was nothing compared to the crybaby bitches on the other shifts when this plan was proposed.

Received via Email 9-08-07  Thats a good point about the other shifts whining. You win. We were sliding around in our own tears when that shit was going down. I for one, whined like a little bitch.

Received via Email 9-08-07  Even the city negotiator at the time said that we should have negotiated for the change instead of giving in to a management whim.  Let me see........hmmm....negotiate or give in to the good ole boy's network.  Some of them are still employed here you know and they're posing as firefighters.  FTM KTF PTB&S EGH

Received via Email 9-08-07   Why does the B shift whine? Arn't they like 90 % JW's?

Received via Email 9-09-07  If the B shift employees are not mostly JWs, they should be. It makes sense to put people that have no use for holidays (although they dont mind holiday pay) on the shift that works the most christmas's. It's a win win. Besides, it will make it easier to keep an eye on them.

Received via Email 9-09-07  Get over the past and move on ! Vote for Winnie.

Received via Email 9-09-07  I would rather work with Scientologists than JWs. At least the Scitis have more money and clout. And they appreciate the old ways. Who says JWs do not lie. Yeah right!

Received via Email 9-09-07  maybe some chiefs at head quarters can go hang out in the garage so we can have a real dept.

Received via Email 9-09-07  Can we rename this page "Cry Baby Assholes"? Not just the B shifters, but the other shifts as well as some of these retired folks with nothing better to do but listen to everyone whine. Things must be going pretty good if these are all the "Open Wounds" that we have to speak of.

Received via Email 9-10-07  As a cry baby asshole I would just like to say that I think I just went poopy doo in my pants. WAAAHAAAAAAAAA!

Received via Email 9-10-07  Yo, butmunch.  Let's make a deal.  If it'll make you feel like your in charge of something, I'll cry about what's important to me and you can cry about what you think ought to be important to me.  And your name is Chief ________________? 

Received via Email 9-10-07  How come the guy in charge of a fire department is only a chief? In the military thats only an enlisted position below lieutenant or captain. I think they should be admirals or presidents or something.

Big Chief Rainbow
Gayest Indian in Florida

Received via Email 9-11-07  Wheres the LOVE ?

Received via Email 9-11-07  I have thought about that chief thing before. Why dont our lieutenants and captains outrank our chiefs? And shouldnt paramedics already out rank middle management? Its all so confusing. So very very confusing.

Received via Email 9-11-07  Yea, and how come medics dont even out rank nurses. Isn't that some BS.

Received via Email 9-11-07  thats because the medics screw the nurses than screw the nurses.

Received via Email 9-11-07 Yeah!  What he said.  Hicccccup!

Received via Email 9-11-07  Firefighters dont even outrank James Bracey.

Received via Email 9-11-07  Bracy for Chief!!!!!

Received via Email 9-12-07  HEY I LIKE JAMES

Received via Email 9-12-07  I heard from a reliable source (a chief) that he's the webmaster!  Yeah... no shit.  I said the same thing when I heard that, too.  It's all clear to me now!  My hat's off to ya, James.  You da man!

Received via Email 9-13-07  The guy is a serious waste of taxpayer dollars. Where is he by the way? Somebody go check the bench in front of Home Depot.

Received via Email 9-13-07  I just checked the bench and he is not there. I asked at the customer service desk, and they said that he just left. He came in to the store, bought one screw, took a nap, and left to drop the screw off at one of the stations. My bet is that he will be back in 20 minutes to buy the nut that goes with the screw. I will keep an eye out and keep everyone posted.

Received via Email 9-13-07  James Bracey is the hardest working man on the FD.... While he busts his ass doing station work that you could be doing, you are probably just watching TV. James is a much better use of taxdollars than most of you lazy firefighters. John BryanHell

Received via Email 9-14-07  It would be a miracle if I ever saw that guy wear his button up shirt. We get bitched out if we have a button undone and this guy travels the city in a t-shirt and ball cap. Go figure. There must be a separate set of rules for him.

Received via Email 9-14-07  A different set of rules? Sure there is. In case you've forgotten, he aint a firefighter. He does however understand his work assignments better than most of us. He knows what his job responsibility is and what he is required to do and more importantly what not to do.
TEAM:   ROTFLMAO!  Uh hmmm.  Exuse us.  Now back to our show...

Received via Email 9-14-07  I love James Bracey, and he loves me. Beyonce

Received via Email 9-16-07  I could not agree with my sweet beautiful sister, Beyonce, more. James Bracey has got it going on. I will never forget when he popped my cherry oh so many years ago. He was tender in a brutal but sweet sort of way. I was just a skinny confused local kid with a raging case of diptheria before I found myself chained up in James guest room. Somehow, he made erectile dysfunction seem cool. I laugh now when I think back to the way he used to say "spit on it, beyotch!" Oh, memories! But his firm discipline gave me more than just the will to survive, it gave me the drive to become one of the hottest stars in hollywood that can actually charge an extra half million buckaroos per picture just for showing my tits.

I too love James. And I know he still loves me, even though he does not return my calls.

Sign me:
Satisfied Customer Halle Berry
And when you see James, tell that motherfu**er to answer his voice mails.

Received via Email 9-16-07  Spit on it, beyotch? That James is a bad mutha..... (SHUT YOUR MOUTH!)

Received via Email 9-16-07  This James Bracey sounds like one special dude. We didn't have hunky guys like that when I was on the job. Well, except for me of course. He sounds fantastic. Maybe someone could send me a few pics of him? I would really like that. Oh lord, how I would like that. He sounds so very beautiful. I would like to meet him, to touch him. Please please please send pics of him, preferably at the beach or maybe as a young lad in the tub at home.

Thanks alot.

George Lewis
Yes, THAT George Lewis and YES, I did it.

Received via Email 9-16-07  James Bracey for union president.

Received via Email 9-16-07  Let's face it: James Bracey gets more ass than a master station toilet. Go James.

Received via Email 9-16-07  I'm pretty sure George Lewis is innocent. Santa Claus told me. We were at a banquest where I was awarded my first Nobel Prize. I will never forget it because there were a few democrats there that loved America.

Received via Email 9-16-07  Okay, I admit that I was one of the guys that put my house up for George's bail. But I had to. We are all brothers on this job and it is important that we stand by each other through thick or thin. To be totally honest there was a little pressure from George. He promised me he was innocent and that if I didn't help he would make me sorry. REAL sorry. I thought he was kidding until my parents both disappeared and my dog got raped. The kicker was when I found a burning paper bag on my front porch full of dog shit. I hate that.

Thanks for nothing you assholes. Screw all of you.

Skippy
TEAM:  While we didn't mention it to you at the time (purely out of love & respect for you, Skip) we could have pointed out a couple of better investment alternatives to backing a cold-blooded murderer.

Received via Email 9-16-07  Who the fu*k is this asshole to pretend he is me?  He couldn't be a motherf*cking pimple on my fat white ass.  F*ck all of you sons of bitches. And you c**ts, too.

Up yours. All of you, up yours.

The REAL Skip

Received via Email 9-16-07  Ole skippy, what fond memories! One of our most beloved firefighters who somehow - made it to DC. He brought such joy to this department.

Received via Email 9-16-07  Don't call me Skippy you turd. It's CHIEF to you douche bags. F**k all of you fu**ing assholes. Unless of course you outrank me, in that case see you on the flip flop good buddy.

Skip
Still mad about the stethamike.

Received via Email 9-20-07  J.P. I want this site shut down.
Thats an order Skip

Received via Email 9-21-07  Seriously, shut this f***ing shit down right now you stupid insolent insubordinate c*******ing mother****er. Checking on you worthless faggots is cutting into my jerking off and self fisting time.
F*** you. F*** all of you.
Skip
TEAM:  We only post this out of respect for you're being a retired DC.  You could be nicer, though. 
Forget it... that's never happened.

Received via Email 9-21-07  Are you sure that's not Bob Field?
TEAM:  50% of Bob's conversation could contain the "F" Bomb and when he was done, you knew right where he was coming from and you still loved him!

Received via Email 9-24-07  THE ONLY THING I MISS ABOUT OLE SKIPPY WAS THE GREAT CARTOONS D/F USE TO DRAW ABOUT HIM.

Received via Email 9-25-07  What officer gave him the nickname "Jabba the hut"?

Received via Email 9-26-07  WAS IT ZAMP ?

Received via Email 9-26-07  I believe it was "Jabba the Gut".

Received via Email 9-26-07  What officer gave him the nickname "Jabba the hut"? Funny, I thought it was asshole.

Received via Email 9-28-07  I love it, show the same kind of disrespect to ZAMP and he would show you the red ticket express. I love how some have become what they so hated. Zamp has been that way through his entire career, no matter what his rank.

Received via Email 9-28-07  A baby dinosaur that grew up and became a major dinosaur.  MM took the same route.  What was it his brother in law used to call him?  Oh yeah.......Lt. Asshole!

Received via Email 9-28-07  If I remember corectly it was Zamp who gave Prince his nickname!

Received via Email 9-28-07  When he (Zamp) first made it (D/C) I have to admit he hated to make the call for overtime. But now I think that's how he get his rocks off!

Received via Email 9-28-07  Just keep that top button buttoned and no white socks. Other than that the dept can go to hell! Or so I'm told!

Received via Email 9-29-07   Hey I like mike!

Received via Email 9-29-07  But then again I drink beer!

Received via Email 9-29-07  Yeah MZ is really lookin out for us. What is this new Merit Badge crap about? Why does he think he needs to show us all of his qualifications? I wonder if he puts in for any of the premium pays? Who would know?

Received via Email 9-29-07  MZ seems to be sucking off Sta 3. Look at their merit badges. They are firefighting specialist's. I do not know what that means for the rest of us A shifters. Maybe we can be rehab specialist's.

Received via Email 9-29-07  There is no such thing as mandatory overtime. Try to find it in the rules. Stop allowing them to mandatory you unless there is a hurricane coming. If they can take multiple vehicles out of service for something as lame as an officers meeting, then they can shut them down for manpower. Everybody else in the city has an overtime ROTATION. Even our own beloved inspection division knows when to expect OT. A few guys have already had the balls to say no, and have never been jammed up for it. Just say no.

Received via Email 9-29-07  The A shift has merit badges? Can I buy one?

Received via Email 9-29-07  # 3 is special all right. They get to test gloves and shit like that. JB goes to Pittsburg every week to bring back another secret, that he only lets his crew in on it. Thats the way they dont do it in Pittsburg though, they come accross a new idea and they let everyone know about it.
TEAM:  It beats the load of rubber dog shit from Singapore that the city keeps trying to get us to swallow.

Received via Email 9-29-07  By working overtime and not refusing to, you are simply telling the city we don't need more manpower. Do like Tampa put trucks out of service.

Received via Email 9-29-07  Station 3 A shift is so special that there is a station test for the white probie firefighters and a station test for the black probie firefighters. Instead of having batman for your station 3A mascot it should be the KKK bed sheets. I cant blame the captain for the station problems because he was not there all the time. The crew was the culprit behind this bullshit. Every black firefighter that works overtime there or swap or whatever, will look at this crew and wonder if the same people that tried to screw the probies over, have their back.
TEAM:  Details?

Received via Email 9-30-07  Stop crying. We know you are scared of fire. You failed your test now it is a racial thing. Do you want reparations?

Received via Email 9-30-07  It's good to see that all of the gutless, incompetant dumb-asses are looking out for all of the other gutless, incompetant dumb-asses.

George Vickers

Received via Email 9-30-07  TO: #9 on 9/29/07 Oh Bullshit !!! Now go out on the apron and practice your snap and roll dance and when you get through you can make up a rap tune about slavery. They'll have your back, don't worry. All you have to do is make sure you do the job the way you were taught. Pretend you have to rescue "fitty cent" or something. Go check your shit for seeds and watch TV. Actully you could give up this job and go for a career in rapping. Be a playah. Learn to pop and dance like you're doin' double dutch. You'll be a showstopper. Word is that we're sick of being accused of maintaining a double standard on this department by those who just arrived. It looks like you've been punked and didn't see it coming. 

Quit this pissant job and become somebody in the hood. We did it. And look where we are today.

TU-PAK SHAKUR
JAM MASTER JAY
FREAKY THA
NOTORIOUS BIG
ALBERT THOMAS
Bang !!! You're dead.

TEAM:  We just can't make this stuff up! 
P.S. Thanks to one of you for sending in some backgroud info.

Received via Email 9-30-07  The A shift at #3 asked a training Lt. if he would assist them in acquiring gloves to test so the department, as a whole, would benefit. The station captain was made aware of the testing after the gloves were received.

Fact: The station test is available for all to see and is given to all three shifts. The A shift doesn't do anything differently than we do on the C shift. In fact, if an official asked to see the test in question, they will find that creative grading was done in order for the probie to pass.

Fact: The poster of the departments black firefighters, visible at #8, sends a racist signal. The department's administration should check with city legal before more than these comments are made.

Received via Email 10-01-07  There we have. This is what you all should do that responded to 9-29 #11. Go to every black man or woman on this job and say all those things to their face. Its easy to come here and tell all the people that think like you how you feel but you would never take that shit outside of this little group. If you can say it in here, you can say it outside of usvsthem. 9-30 #3 it was funny but so wrong. You throw a stereo type out there and white people go along with it thinking that, that is how all the minoritys of this job is and you are so far from the truth because I can show you a whole lot of lazy white firefighters on this job. I can show you a whole lot of white people that sit in their cubes watch tv checking for seeds. Every black man or woman on this job is just like you. We want to be good at this job. We want to be responsible citizens and raise our familys. No one wants to be fu**ing rapper but that is the stereo type that you threw out there. Its was funny but in a iqnorant way. 9-30 #4 you are probably right that poster needs to come down. Coming in here saying it aint going to get it done. If you feel like that stand up say something. Speaking of posters what about the one of all the white firefighter at the MFS from the 60's. Maybe that one should come down too. When I see that picture I see racism at its height. Remember black people were not hired on this department until 1972 and when they did get hired they were treated like shit by some of those same people. Name one black firefighter that treated you like shit. Made you feel as if you didnt belong. Maybe we need to get rid of both of those posters. TO GEORGE VICKERS im curious was that directed to all firefighters or just the black firefighters. Just curious. Just want to say this to everyone. If you can come in here and speak about anybody black, white whatever then you can say it to their face. You have the station #s, you know where these people are. Let them know where you stand.

Received via Email 10-01-07  Clayton Poole, rasict, drug user. Bigot. Egbert Thomas race card user. Leonard Falana..._____________.

On the other side. MM good ole boy, J"bud"C,

Received via Email 10-01-07  to #2 10/01  You come off mighty righteous, but I've yet to see you sign your name to any ot this great information that your dealing.  You tell people to do this and you tell people to do that.  How bout you don't tell anybody anything and shut your pie hole or else come up with some facts that oppose what others have written.  You've got as much chance of people listening to you on this site as people listening to SK anywhere.

Received via Email 10-01-07  Your words do not mean sh** if you can not sign your post.

John" We can't build enough prisons" Edwards
Presidential Hopeful

Received via Email 10-01-07  If the truth be known.......... one firefighter found some real problems with another firefighter (probie) who wasn't quite cutting it.  Both of them are of the same persuasion so it's kindof like the refrigerator calling the stove, white.  he he he

Received via Email 10-01-07  hey 10/1, how about w.roberts? Pot sturring wanna be farakhan?

Received via Email 10-01-07  Can't we all just get along

TEAM:  Sure we can all get along.  We'll start by telling a joke.

The next time you're having a bad day, imagine this:

You're a Siamese twin.

Your brother, attached at your shoulder, is gay.

You're not!

He has a date coming over tonight.

You only have one ass!

Received via Email 10-01-07  You guys know the people you talk about. Take what you say in here and say it to that person instead of placing it on here. I am no righteous than you are 10-01 #3. I dont say that to be an asshole. So you mean to tell me that they were the only 2 probies fu**ing up on this job. That is a bunch of shit. I have rode with probies from that group and some of them had problems just like the other 2 but you guys were not making light of their problems. Leonard falana and Wade Roberts, you guys have beef with them because they are very opionated about certain things. Whether they are right or wrong. Who do you think Sweet went to about the question whether station 3 is racist and Roberts told him the truth and now you guys have made him out to be the bad man. Your smear campaign. Thats what you guys do. When someone dont agree with you guys you start your smear campaign. That is what happened to the 2 probies going through station 3. Station 3 crew were talking to them like they weren't men and those 2 probies started voicing their opinion, they were not having that shit and they started pushing back and then started the smear campaign. How would you respond if someone is talking down on you like you are a child. Those 2 probie are grown men and have children of their own. Not only that but how is a firefighter going to give someone an evaluation. An acting LT is not even allowed to sign off on JATC so how is he going to sign off on an evaluation. Probie spoke of that and here comes the smear campaign."ONE FIREFIGHTER FOUND SOME REAL PROBLEMS WITH ANOTHER(PROBIE). ONE firefighter out of 80 on the shift and 5 at the staion. You are taking your word from ONE man out 80 on shift or 30 in probie station rotation through out the year. That makes a whole lot of sense to me. ONE firefighter huh. If they were having real problems on the job like you say they were then how are they passing their monthly test or the JATC test. How come their evaluations dont reflect that.

TEAM:  Solution

Received via Email 10-02-07   The evals are bullshit. The officer gets in more trouble for giving a two "unsatisfactory" than the trouble is worth. The firefighter should have not done the eval but you know Brunis boys are the best. Can do no wrong. Firefighting specialist's have their own rules.

Received via Email 10-02-07  I can't speak to all of the questions posed, but I can post a couple of thoughts that I have gathered throughout my years of working with and observing probies coming on the job as well as a few other probabally insignificant points.....First off, I believe that probies are treated better than they have ever been treated. They are coddled and have their hands held throughout the whole year. If someone doesn't talk to you, move on to someone who will. I did not come from another Department, this was my first. From my first day on the job, I wanted to work hard and gain the trust and respect of those that I worked with. I wasn't concerned with everything being equal. I understood that I was the new guy (in fact there were several people on my shift who I was convinced thought that my name was "new guy". I was OK with this. I sucked it up, did some extra work and I knew that they were watching how I responded. Eventually, I worked myself into being equal. Second, I am pretty sure that as of a couple of years ago, every station test is the same on all three shifts for each station. I am also pretty confident that this came as a result of some cry baby asshole failing a test and saying that it was unfair because the other probie on the other shift had a different test. I am also under the impression that training has a copy of all of the station tests and they have reviewed them all prior to the first test being given.  I have to say that I am also pretty sick of all this racial bullshit being thrown around here. Yes there is a poster of black firefighters at station 8. If you don't like it, don't look. Yes there is an old poster of white firefighters at the MFS. If you don't like it, don't look. I have worked with great people that are male and female, white and black. I have also worked with assholes both male and female, white and black. If you're and asshole, it's not because you are white, black, male, female, new guy or senior....It's just because you are an asshole. Don't be offended, just quit being an asshole.  

Smiles, Peace and Love,
John Lennon

Somebody should have given John Lennon an E ribbon. I am not an asshole, I am all taint. It does seem though if a probie is an asshole it is everyones fault but their own. Switch shifts that seems to work or not.
Nacho Libre
Luchador
TEAM:  "E" for content and a "F" for being a lefty pinko tree hugger.  He never should have married that 'woman'.

Received via Email 10-02-07  Its also fair to say that if a firefighter speaks to me like an asshole, he will be spoken back to like he is an asshole whether I'm a probie or not. You are man before you are a firefighter. Whether probie or not, you are going to talk to me like a man. If I give you that respect then I deserve that same respect. That's the thing station 3 firefighters have their own rules different from everyone else rules. Those 2 probies called them out on their bullshit and next thing you know the smear campaign started.

Received via Email 10-02-07  Maybe if St Pete had a fire academy, trained everyone there the same way regardless of color or sex, you wouldnt have to have these bullshit conversations. This is why St Pete is a second rate at best fire department.  A probie is referred to as Rookie for his entire first year, screw his birth name, his name changes for one year, if he earns the respect of the other men, does his job according to the book, not some Lt or Capt's way of doing things, then he 'may" be referred to by his birth name, if not some other name will be assigned accordingly.

Received via Email 10-02-07  The difference between the all white picture and the all black picture is that one represents the ENTIRE fire department at the time the picture was taken. The other is just a hand picked group brought together strictly by race, which goes against everything we are taught and strive to work for. I would really like to see one big picture of the entire FD as it is today, but I doubt that will ever be arranged. I do think it is nice that a white guy or two glued their pictures to the discrimitory and racially charged poster at station number hate--- I mean eight, and I encourage everyone else to do the same. Equality is where it's at, man.

Jerry Garcia, man.
Love is groovy

Received via Email 10-02-07  What's all this talk about the gigantic smear campaign? Is this when you are being a little pussy asshole you get a free pap smear? What division is sponsoring this? Training? EMS? Is this only for probies or can anyone be involved? Please give me some answers!

Sincerely, Brett Farve
Future Hall of Famer, not a new guy

Received via Email 10-02-07  St. Pete can't have its own fire academy cause its training diversion (oops) has no money. If they had money it would put all of our double standard half priced instructors out of work. Think about it. The EMS division has more employees for the ems folks than training and they are responsible for the entire department. This is understandable when you realize that the EMS funding comes from some where else.

Received via Email 10-03-07  Hey, what double standard are you referring to?

Received via Email 10-03-07  We could afford a fire academy with just one more Penny for Pinellas.  We could have Darrin Anderson run it...... shit........ no wait........ we can't do that as long as Lanning's around.  That "sprayed cockroad" has got his fingers in EVERYTHING!

Received via Email 10-03-07  I guess I need to call someone at No. 3 to find out what's going on.  Everyone's in here giving little snippets of whats going on and I don't have a clue as to who the players are.

Received via Email 10-03-07  To 10/2 #3: Shut up and sit down, New Guy!

Received via Email 10-03-07  Most of the problems that probies have comes from their surroundings and environment off the job. Many seem to have the "macho", "I'm a man" attitude that works more for getting them through the "hood" than it does in the work place. Bringing that attitude to the job and thinking it will get you "respect" couldn't be farther from the truth. This isn't a club you joined or Saturday night at the bar with four of your buddies. This is a job. There are traditions. There are professionals that you work with. You are none of these right now. Therefore you should realize that the first year you're here you're shit. It's that simple. Those of us who have gotten through the probation period did it because we knew when to shut up and when to work just a little harder than expected. You blow your mouth about "Whether probie or not, you are going to talk to me like a man". That sounds like a threat to me. Step off or step up. When you hear "hey probie", "hey new guy", or "hey asshole" they're probably talking to you. And make no mistake about it. You'll do the same thing to the probie that comes on after your year is up. So take your "tough guy" attitude and leave it with the homies when you come to work. You earn respect. You can't demand it. At least not on this job. But once you earn it then you will be talked to like a man.

Josh White

Received via Email 10-03-07  I wonder how large the uproar would be if all the white firefighters got together for their own photograph? We could proudly display it in one of the stations. I doubt anyone would have any objections to that.

Received via Email 10-03-07  TO JOSH WHITE. How do you know whether they grew up in the hood? You know nothing about these men. Dont know where they grew up or how they were raised. Just to sit here and read this shit shows everyone in here how ignorant you are. Say what you are saying to your black colleagues and see what kind of response you will get. There are some from the HOOD and wouldn't mind showing you how HOOD they are. Just to help you ignorant ass out, not all of us were raised in the hood so do some research before you come in here throwing out stereo types. Since when talking down on someone became a TRADITION. If you are a PROFESSIONAL, you handle yourself like a professional by talking to anyone you come in contact with respect. I have been on for a while and would never disrespect anyone, whether their a probie or not. I have always treated people fairly. I have never made my decision about someone based off what some else had to say about that person but by how that individual has treated me. That is my TRADITION, you can keep yours. You sound crazy. Let me get this right I earn your respect by letting you talk to me like I am a child, your fu**ing crazy. How does that help me become a better firefighter. I am more concerned whether a probie can do the job without getting someone hurt than talking to him in a way that demeans him. How backwards is your thinking. I dont give a shit how it was in the pass. Just because YOU think it was right then dont make it right today. In the past blacks were not allowed to be fireman, did it make it right? F**K NO! How about you take you and your fu**ing TRADITION back to RED NECK city because that shit aint working here. 10-03 #6 if you are so concerned about that picture at 8 then you should not be complaing in here. Take that shit to administration. Nobody can do nothing for you in here but agree with you. 

Received via Email 10-04-07  With the exception of one, or two unhappy people. St.8 is anything but a hateful place. It has possible the best, and most fair Captain in the department. This Capt. went up against admin, from Callahan, to the cities big money people. Putting them in the middle of the swamp that those members have to work in, and be sick for a day or two after their shift. Showing council members just how bad it is in St. Petersburg's furthest south station. I honestly do not know who or what put up that poster. I have mixed feelings about it too. Some on the job use it as a ---- card, while some view it as proof of past wrongs turned around. Oh yeah by the way, any of you out there that had their 100th year pic taken, know that there will be a."team" picture soon. So then you can toss those rose colored glasses away, and see the department in living color! Lets get over our petty differances here. If it bothers you that bad, I am sure you can get a good volunteer position on a small town in Jena, La. Fight the bigotry!
TEAM:  Bernie Williams is a Titan!

Received via Email 10-04-07  Dear 10/3 #7: You spell like you come from the hood.
Mr. Grammar Guy

Received via Email 10-04-07  I stand by my statement and I got the exact response I knew I would. As a matter of fact that's a very similar attitude that I had when I first came on the job. Arrogant, full of myself, and not willing to be part of anything. Calling me names is just part of your defense mechanism and I take no offence at your juvenile tactics. You obviously think you're made to perfection and your ideas and attitude are representative or what everyone's should be. I'm sorry. You're wrong. I'm the professional on this job and you're not. I'm not saying that your statements don't have SOME truth to them. We should all be respectful of one another. Talking down to you for the time your on probation is to get your attention and to see if you can handle it. And take my word for it, if you don't get your mind right you'll be talked to long after you get off probation the same way. Believe me when I say that you're not running the show. Your excuse that my talking to you man to man will make you a better firefighter. Don't worry. There are going to be many that talk to you like a man if you keep the attitude you have. You being concerned with what the other probies are doing isn't necessary. That's the job of the station officer. Relax a little and take the chip off your shoulder. No one wants to work with you or anyone else that can't be part of the crew. And challenging the process on a daily basis will only bring the wrong kind of attention to you. I'm sure you're not the only one who has this problem in different degrees. Try something else for a change. Give a little extra instead of whining about the required amount. Look for things to that are positive that will draw attention to you. There are those of you, and I don't want to label all, who think that your opinion is the only opinion, right or wrong. You'll find that having NO opinion at this point is the fastest way to being one of the team. Now get along and write a snappy rebuttal to my post just to show the guys and girls that you don't take no shit and I don't know what the f**k I'm talking about.

Your Buddy,
Josh

Received via Email 10-04-07  Oh leave Josh alone. We ALL grew up in a hood somewhere. If you took that wrong maybe you are just a racist sell out beyotch - your own damned self.
Ward Cleaver
Still Pounding hard on the Beav








Received via Email 10-04-07  Dude, you are a loser and you know it. You know that station life isn't as retarded as the bitching on this site, you would get a golden shower everyday you came to work. Jackass.

Received via Email 10-04-07  Did anyone catch the O'reilly Factor tonight?  In the "pinhead or patriot" segment, he talked to both, Wally and the Beav.  He said that they were both patriots. 

I love Bill.
P.S. Rush is Right!
Fred Thompson for President

Received via Email 10-05-07  I grew up in a tough hood. My dad used to make us kids clean our own pool.

Received via Email 10-05-07  Well, I guess I'm like some of you.  I also had to clean the pool.  It sucked because when no one was looking the gardener and the maide use to get it on, in the shallow end.  That sucked.  Well, not so much with cleaning the pool, but because I wanted to tap that action, too.  What really sucked is the fact that dear old dad wouldn't give me access to the third garage.  He said I'd have to waid till I was 21 before he'd give me the keys to what lay there.  Shit... when I turned 21 he gave me the keys, alright.  I opened the door to the third garage and all I found was a safe.  The keys were to the friggin' safe.  There was no Porche', no Lambourghini.  It was just a safe filled with stocks and bonds.

You guys keep talking about working for this asshole of a mayor.  You should have cleaned the pool under my dad.  Well, not "under" my dad.... you know what I mean.
TEAM:  That story of abuse brought tears to our eyes.
OW-1