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Received via Email 04.28.09  I have got to be talking to a third grader. W is a fu***g initial.  Walker is his middle name.  You are calling me dumb when you dont even know the initial W is the fist letter in his middle name.  I truly believe you are in the closet republican fag.  Everyone of you post you talk about gay shit.  Dude be yourself.  If you like taking it in the ass when you are not republican bad ass on the you computer, its fine.  Maybe you should join the log cabin refagicans,  I mean log cabin republicans.  I do look at the issues and your issues arent my issues.  Like I said before.  I will not judge anyone by their name.  Just because you are stuck in a time when it was cool to be racst is your problem.    Curious to know from YOU?  How can you be racist and gay all at the same time?  How do you manage?  Has to hard putting up the front?  Its funny how you bash me but you cant defend Geoge WALKER Bush (AKA The F**k up).  News flash.  The republican party is dying because of people like you.  Im loving every minute of it. This 1 black man is making your party go ape shit.  BEAUTIFUL.  Showing you guys for what you really are.  A political party of division,hate and racist.  With no appeal to the majority of the population.  

Yeah I almost blew chunks too when I figured this was a page for in the closet republicans.  I mean all this talk about fags when someone bring up the issues made realize what im dealing with.  

Received via Email 04.29.09  Listen you cracker ************, I dont care if you ARE a democrat you DO NOT call our president an APE you ************!  The republicans are APE SHIT is that what you said you cracker ****?  Its always you racists that sneak into the democrat party that **** it up for the rest of us with your racist remarks. Go **** your self you racist piece of shit.
TEAM"  'Shit' is okay.  Those other words, not so much.  Too many stars and we grow weary of posing.  Quote: "This 1 black man is making your party go ape shit."  That's not quite the same as calling  him an ape.

Calm down, Francis.

Received via Email 04.29.09  Calling George Bush by his middle initial is a reference to his middle name.  How big a moron do you have to be to not understand that?  Yes, "W" stands for Walker.  And "C" is for cat as "D" is for dog.  Why must you liberals be spoon fed such basic information. What dumbasses each and everyone of you are.

Also, you should not refer to America's first black president as an ape.  Especially if you plan on accusing others of being racist, you snot nosed bigot prick.
TEAM: Uhhh. See above.

Received via Email 04.29.09  Call me Francis and I will kill you

Received via Email 04.29.09  Nice choice of words you liberal c*********. Why even mention that the president is black, but then you had to make a reference to apes.  Fu**ing democrats are the biggest racist, America hating  hypocrites anywhere.  How do you liberals sleep at night?

Received via Email 04.29.09  This guy that called Obama an ape, is he Barney Franks pump handle?
TEAM:  Barney = Pole Smoker!

Received via Email 04.29.09  Republicans are not happy about Obama being the president and taxing the living hell out of America while convincing only the very stupid that there are tax cuts coming, but at least they don't refer to the president as being an ape.  Thats pure racist bullshit.
TEAM: Uhhh. See above.  No!  Read above.

Received via Email 04.29.09  Let's get a few things straight right now. My middle name is Hussein.  I like it.  It is a proud reminder of some of the worlds greatest leaders. At least that's what mom told me but I'm not sure.  She made up a lot of stuff- like my birth certificate.

And that guy that called me an ape is a liberal fag.  I know what you are thinking- I should be nicer to democrats but I just can't any more since most of them are fags and I already got what I needed from them: votes.  I sold it and they bought it.  Now all I need is some of that sweet dope I used to dig in college.  Not the good school days, but the school days that are so bad that I refused to release my transcripts.  But I was a doper then so don't blame me- blame the candy man.

In conclusion, screw all of you I am going to do whatever I want even though I know this country can't afford it.  Once I convert us to socialism I intend to implement the metric system, bring back that delightful band "Hanson" and force more men to kiss each other in public.  I dig that stuff.

Now if you excuse me I am going to go smoke a carton of Newports before I double the taxes on those sons of bitches.

Up yours all of you,
Your Buddy Barack Hussein

Received via Email 04.29.09  Francis, calm down.  Read it again.  There is nothing within that paragraph that you can interpet whether I was thinking along those lines.

WOW, didnt know it was basic info to call someones middle by their initial.  Its so common.  I guess when you see a DOG, you say hey look at this "D".  When you see FIRE, your response is "We have an "F".  When someone ask for your middle do you say "yeah my middle name is J".  Get real.  Your a joke too.  You sound "G" as in gay.  Not homosexual gay but lame exuse gay.  The fact that you would use that excuse to demean someones middle name.  Like I said before.  COWARDS.   Your the bigot.  Your the one who is voicing your opinion about something you either didnt read or couldn't read. 

Received via Email 04.29.09  LEARN TO FU**ING READ.  You guys see liberuls everyday.  DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.  COWARDS!!!!!

George Walker Bush (AKA THE fu** up)

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Received via Email 04.29.09  I can't believe that the president of the united states was nice enough to visit this room even after that liberal retard called him an ape.  Obama Hussein has got it going on.
TEAM:  Word is, he checks in here all the time.  The chiefs don't.  But he does.  Just sayin'.

Received via Email 04.29.09  Until this swine flu thing goes away I am going to swear off the fat chicks for awhile.

Bill Clinton
I love back

Received via Email 04.29.09  Is Jimmie going to create a pandemic Chief that is in charge of 2 Captains and they go to 3 hour lunches.

Received via Email 04.29.09  Here's another 'good news' log to throw on the fire: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/INSIDE-WASHINGTON-Rude-apf-15091434.html?.v=1

Received via Email 05.01.09  Bush leaving office was like divorcing a wife that had trouble keeping her checkbook balanced. 
Obama getting elected was like getting re-married to a woman who just lost her job but goes out and buys a new house and a car every day on your credit.

Received via Email 05.04.09  No, I disagree.   Bush leaving office was like divorcing a wife that did everything within her power to make the marriage work in spite of your constant extramarital affairs and complete disloyalty.  
Obama getting elected is like marrying a whore who would do and say anything to get you to marry her, and then she ruins your credit after spending twice as much money as you have and maxing your credit.  Then she goes down the road stealing everyone else's money and credit cards, spending and charging until the entire neighborhood is completely bankrupt.  Then she goes overseas and tells our enemies how weak and lazy people in her neighborhood are.  Then she blows the Saudi King and fu**s a bunch of terrorists.  Oh, how she loves the terrorists.  What keeps her going?  It's because the liberals think she's the most beautiful woman they have ever seen. 

Received via Email 05.05.09  Bush wasn't like a wife at all.  He and Reagan are the most manly presidents in the last 50 years.  Obama is like a wife.  Like a wife who constantly digs into you wallet by using a shovel that goes into your pocket by way of your asshole.

Received via Email 05.06.09  In the past couple of days we've had info meetings at the union hall and a good number of peoople showed up there and were surprised to find the CEO of Lifescan sitting in the office waiting to talk to all of us.  She told us that she only works for FF's and PO's and when the city approached her to drop the entire workforce of the city on her, she refused.  She told the city that she chooses to only work with FF's and PO's.  She told us that Lifescan doesn't share delicate information with ANY city or county that they deal with but the city of St. Pete may well be the first because we still don't have that language locked down.  What a shock!  The most anti labor city and the most anti labor fire administration in the state are still pushing for something that Bobby Martin and the union jammed up their arse just a couple of months ago. 
Funny how some stories get up and grow legs on their own.  There was a story was running around after the meeting that the physical that they perform is SOOOOOO GOOD that they put 23 Palm Harbor FF's off the job.  So much for that management story.  In typical fashion, Winnie jumped on the phone and called Palm Harbor's union president as we all stood and listened and the story turned out to be total bullshit.  1 FF who had a serious heart condition was not allowed to return to work immediately.  So much for bullshit.  I guess I could have put this a more appropriately named page.

Received via Email 05.06.09  Question:  Were any of the potentially 60 people who may lose their job's at this little shindig?  I'll bet I know the answer.

Received via Email 05.06.09  He and Reagan are the manliest presidents in the last 50 years ???
You are in a haze filled right winged world.
Bush is an alcoholic, cocaine user, party boy that had his daddy buy his way out of service in Vietnam, and get a soft spot in the Texas Air Nat Guard. He F'ed his way out of it by missing training, and weaseled his way back to civilian life. His lack luster time as Gov of Texas, took that state close to Alabama's accomplishments. The worst education system, highest unemployment. He lies to the county in going to war. Lies to the parents of dead young men and women for reasons to chase non existent weapons of mass destruction. Makes a new record of the all time worst rating of ANY AMERICAN President, ever! Him a man? NOT, his mom Barbara Bush had bigger balls than he does.
Reagan, the absolute best B movie actor, (yes actor) President ever. His cute lil humorous stories he would tell to charm senior citizens as alzheimered as he was into calling him the great communicator?? He did nothing to make safer this world. He did not bring down the iron curtain or tear any wall down. It happened on its own, Communism was dead on its own. His last 6 years in office was a cross between a real bad comedy, or like his show in the 60's "Death Valley Days" and watching his red dress-wearing wife, Nancy run the country. 2nd worst President ever.
Thank GOD Americans voted in a change, as it was needed. Time to return the country to its people, and not just a special few big money corporate types. I hope that when the country returns as it is heading now to prosperity, you will admit your bigoted ways, and apologize to all of us

Received via Email 05.06.09  Why do liberals always try to rewrite history?

Received via Email 05.06.09  The only problem with liberals is they love bigger government and more people control.  Well, those aren't the only problems.  "More government" doesn't breed loyalty or freedom.  They practice Socialism and Fascism and refuse to recognize that those dirty words from the the early 20th century might actually be something that 'they' could possibly be employing under a president who wields power as a European Socialist.

Received via Email 05.06.09  Only someone that truly hates America would write such nasty bullshit about Ronald Reagan.  Few people on the right or left disputed Ronald Reagan's accomplishments as they occured.  Sorry to disappoint whoever the moron was that wrote all of that historic revisionism, but Ronald Reagan was instrumental in ending the cold war.  At the time is was indisputable, but of course a few years later, leave it to a left wing moron to pretend that the truth is a lie and that history is something that can be manipulated.  Try to find another president since maybe Kennedy that has had more buildings, highways, schools and airports named after him.  Ronald Reagan is an American hero, and only American haters write the kind of spew seen above.

And speaking of revisionism, I see you are still using the same lies regarding Bush.  If his father bought his way out of Viet Nam, why did he bother going into the national guard?  You have a problem with a wealthy man flying jets for the national guard when he could have been playing golf at a country club, but you just voted for a president that was too stoned on drugs or busy learning how to be a good muslim to even find time to be a cub scout.  When did Bush lie about the War? How come nobody has ever come up with evidence supporting that he lied?  Were the Clintons lying when they said the same thing? John Kerry?  How about the rest of the coward liberals in office that supported the war then, but now pretend (like you) that all you have to do is act like the past didn't happen to make it so? 

You liberals are like a disease, and America is just too strong to succumb to your bullshit.  America won't survive because of liberals.  America will survive in spite of them.

Received via Email 05.06.09  The truth will set you free! thats it!!

Received via Email 05.07.09   America will survive in spite of liberals. Thats perfect.

Received via Email 05.08.09  I've heard of the gay group called the Log Cabin Republicans, but I've never met one.  I've also heard that the membership is so weak that they have disbanded.  This fact further reinforces that even though not all democrats are fags, pretty much all fags are democrats.

Received via Email 05.08.09  I didn't vote for Reagan, but I wish I had.  There is no doubt that he will always be remembered as one of the truly great ones.  I voted for Obama and now I wish I hadn't.  We democrats keep falling for the same promises, but I still have hope for things to get better.     Whoever that democrat was that hammered Reagan in here should be ashamed of himself.  On behalf  of all democrats I apologize for his sorry ass. 

Received via Email 05.08.09  I am a democrat also.  I used to be a republican but when I came out of the closet I realized that republicans are far too manly for me. No, if I want to be a first class faggot, I knew there was only one place for me:  The Democrat Party!  All fag, all day, all night. We love our c**k.  Man alive we love it.  Come on and join us.  Be the best fag you can be by being a democrat. 

Received via Email 05.11.09  Its always so easy to see the guilty ones, they claim to be homo's and repub's, oh wait I'm a democrat, no I mean ...I'll be the pivot man, just a sec, I'll find a bathroom in an airport in Minnesota, or a congressional page,  I see now, I am a true republician..That was scary. (that black guy is kinda cute)

Received via Email 05.11.09   Q: How many Republican politicians can you fit in the closet?
A: Evidently, all of them.

Received via Email 05.11.09  Mark Foley:Sending sexually laced, gramatically challenged instant messages and e-mails to teenaged boys in the Congressional page program for more than 10 years.
Ted Haggard:Paying male prostitutes for sex and snorting crystal meth.Haggard participated in weekly meetings with President George Bush and top advisors where he gave spiritual advice. He taught that homosexuality was an abomination and actively lobbied against gay rights.,
Larry Craig,U.S. Senator: Soliciting sex from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom
Bob Allen: Member of the Florida House of Representatives, Florida Chairman of John McCain's Presidential Campaign.
WOW the list goes on, and on. I see whaich party has the most suckin'!

Received via Email 05.11.09  As president, Reagan expanded the federal government by about 90%.
Ah, but this was for defense, one might protest. And defense spending, according to the conventional wisdom, doesn't count for some reason. In fact, defense spending is good for a "capitalist" economy, even though it was supposedly defense spending that brought down the Soviet economy.
All in all, Reagan allowed the welfare state to enlarge and the military budget to explode, causing monstrous budget deficits and government growth that dwarfs government growth under Clinton, even when Clinton had a Democratic Congress. Reagan's tax cuts notwithstanding (some of which he reversed), the state grew fat and its growth will inevitably be financed through inflation or tax increases (unless the state defaults).
Reagan also bombed Libya, put the "war" in War on Drugs, allowed the continuation of Selective Service registration (despite his campaign promise to end it), helped the Khmer Rouge terrorize Thailand, imposed brutal trade sanctions on Nicaragua, funded the murderous brutal Contras, sold missiles to Iran, gave assistance to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, and lied to the American people.
Great President? NOT

Received via Email 05.11.09   You forgot Barney Frank who was paying for male prostitutes while running a gay prostitution ring out of his townhouse.  The democrats hammered Larry Craig but praised Barney Frank for his bravery. 

Of course, democrats are the same party that made a hero out of Ted Kennedy for being able to swim drunk after killing his secretary.   Also the same party that made a hero out of crack addict/convict Marion Barry.  Remember him?  He even got re-elected once he got out of jail for selling crack to FBI agents.

At least when Republicans are found out to be fags they have to be caught doing the right thing by trying to hide it.  Democrats love all things gay.  They are proud to suck cock in public and in front of children.  Gay senators, gay hooker rings and especially gay marriage.  Gay clubs in public schools.  Democrats are sick. There isn't a democrat alive that has the right to claim moral high ground over the republican party.

Received via Email 05.11.09  5/11, #5. Man, you'd make Satan look like a good guy if was a card carrying GOP'er! It's funny how you all take news, scandals, and spin it to make you all look like the poor beat up fat kid. You are the party of Hypocrisy! Oh yeah Kennedy cars in ponds are OLD news, you all keep us amused with your continued F-uping!

Received via Email 05.11.09  You poor sad Democrat.  Everything said in 5/11 #5 is factual.  Only a democrat looks at a painful truth and tries to rewrite history.  Go look it up.  We can wait.  Until then please reconsider your attraction to the democrat party of hate.  The party that enslaves poor people with welfare and entitlement programs that sap away all of their motivation to move upward along with their sense of self worth. 
The democrats are the party of affirmative action.  Affirmative action tells minorities that they are inferior and that they will never make it without help.  That is racist and pathetic.  Please, if not for yourself--- do it for America: Leave the Democrat party of hate while you still have a choice.

Received via Email 05.12.09  With obama now adays.  I would take the SS over him anytime.  At least they would keep us safe and not give away secrets and would get rid of our enemies.  I am in no way condoning the attrocities and the holocost.

Received via Email 05.12.09  There is no doubt that Obama has written checks that America can't afford.  I would stick around and tell all of you bleeding heart liberals that I told you so, but I am too busy working my day off  job so I can pay the taxes that President  Hussein has decided he needs to steal from my children's future.

Received via Email 05.12.09  Nice work Obama on dive bombing Air Force One over Manhattan.  I can't believe so many morons voted for that turd.

Received via Email 05.12.09  How come when Obama sent air force one for a little joy ride over New York City at about 500 feet... how come he didn't hang a "Mission Accomplished" banner from one of the high rises?
I love Obama because he is black.  What sets me apart from everyone else that voted for him is that at least I will admit that.

Shove it up your asses you racist fu**s,

Mr. Wesley Snipes

Received via Email 05.12.09  Oh and another thing you racist fu**s.  As the greatest actor in the world, my main dawg Obama Lhama has asked me to join his cabinet.  Let's just say the man digs a brother that don't never not pay his motherfu**ing taxes.

Right on, motherfu**er!

Dr. Wesley Snipes MD
Just play acting you redneck fu**

Received via Email 05.12.09  Wesley Snipes is a tax dodging son of a bitch.  However, if he comes back can I get his autograph?

Woody Harrelson

Received via Email 05.13.09  Funny how the same pissed off minority party of GOP'ers keeps submiting numerous post to look like more than one bigot.
Embrace progress, Pres. B.H. Obama love you!

Received via Email 05.13.09  This about sums it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnwL3imzJ3A

Received via Email 05.13.09  There is more than one person in here that knows democrats suck.

Received via Email 05.13.09  Anybody see Obama laughing his head off while some lesbian was "joking" about Rush Limbaugh dying?  He is one classless socialist poor excuse for a president.  It's starting to get embarrassing.

Received via Email 05.13.09  Is this Obama your president not popular, yes?  Is not happy you of president? Is he bad president, yes? Is he at least have rhythm good dance man yes? Is throw basketball very high? Yes?

Yakov Smirnoff
Still got it

Received via Email 05.14.09  So you think Dubya bush never make the US look dirt redneck stupid? Go and review ANY of his news conferences. Mission Accomplished!
Limbaugh dying? While that's not a bad idea, free up AM radio space, he'll be dead soon anyway look at his fat, cigar smoking prescription drug addict. Bye bye fat guy!

Received via Email 05.14.09  As nuch as you would want to see a person die.  Do not revel in it at all.  Karma.  As much as we would like to see most of HQ DI*.  I wouldnt revel in it.
TEAM:  Thanks for adding the "*" to the word die.  It helps a lot.

Received via Email 05.14.09  Is you liberal yes?  You like sucky sucky big dick yes?  Is liberal all like dick of big gay man in mouth or up poop hole yes?  Liberal like dog style sex with other man at home when wife get nails done by asian lady. Is Yakov right yes? Yakov right.

Received via Email 05.14.09  It looks like Jamie Bennett and his campaign manager's mutual ball cupping days are over.

Received via Email 05.14.09  I forgive you, Democrat.  Your party is filled with people that mean well but don't know any better.  You can't help it, and I forgive you for it.

Received via Email 05.14.09  Is it true Pinellas county teachers have not had a raise in 3 years?  But that's okay, they haven't worked a summer in over 100 years.

Received via Email 05.14.09  5/14 #1, way to  show your cards.  You find humor in Rush Limbaugh dying.  Big joke. That's the problem with your party; anyone that disagrees should just die.  Even Obama chuckles like a moron at this idea.  Yours is the party of free stuff for lazy people, first amendment rights only for those that agree, gay marriage, rights for pedophiles & terrorists, and of course--more socialism. 
Do you democrats have ANYthing to be proud of?  You have the White House, the Senate, and Congress, and you are STILL wishing death upon dissenting opinion.  You are sick.  It's time to look at yourself and try to figure out where it all went wrong.

Received via Email 05.14.09  A big thank you to the men of Engine company 12 for the hospitality they showed me last week while visting St. Petersburg from up north here. While not the busiest house I have ever visited while on vacation, it certainly makes up for lack of work in mannerism, hospitality and professionalism. The men and women of E13 also were top notch while visiting that house as well.
I cant say enough for the meals I enjoyed with the men. KUDOS to E-12 and E-13
TEAM:  We're glad you enjoyed your stay in the Sunshine City.  Say hello to the folks in Lancaster Pennsylvania.

Received via Email 05.15.09  Is firehouse good place for visitor to eat free yes? Is immigrant welcome? Is I bring family too, yes?  We spend night, drink much and have much fun! YES!

Received via Email 05.17.09  I'm homeless and I always eat from free and take big dumps in your ADA bathroom at your downtown station.  Hey, is it possible to keep extra loose toilet paper around?  Sometimes I can't get there on time and I shit myself.

Received via Email 05.17.09  I'm not from Lancaster Pa, but I get the gist of your message. Eating free in a firehouse is always a option for the host firemen to offer but is never expected of the visiting fireman thats for sure. If some of you guys would quit being so cunty, you'd know what being a real firemen is about verses being on here making yourself and your deptartment look like real turds.
TEAM:  We're all speechless.  Well -- not really but if you say it, it must be true.

Received via Email 05.17.09  "Cunty?" That's pretty big talk for an out of towner hitting on a fire station for free food.

Received via Email 05.17.09  What being a real fireman is about?  You mean like a hobo looking for handouts in a firehouse kitchen?

Received via Email 05.17.09  "Eating free in a firehouse is always a option for the host firemen to offer but is never expected of the visiting fireman thats for sure."  ("mooch protocol" on p.17 of the New York Times best seller, How Real Firemen Beg With Their Eyes)

Received via Email 05.18.09 @ 5:52 AM  First, no one begged, didnt even imply, money was in hand, so your wrong on that point. The word cunty is for the actions i have been reading here, seems more people would rather cry about their union and dept than stand up and do something about it. Just read the last few pages of this site for that proof, or ask guys in other stations, the embarrasement some on here is causing your dept is obvious when the men at other stations state how they feel to an visiting fireman. I have visited firehouses around the country and world, and only once have I seen the type of dirty laundry aired like this, and that is right here. I was warned not to make a statement here, as to the childish behavior some of you take when someone says something, I had to see it fo myself....point made and proven.



























TEAM:  Liar liar pants on fire!

Received via Email 05.18.09  OK, I still am not lying, why my IP address shows Lancaster is beyond me, Lancaster is approximately 35-40 miles from my home, which happens to be in New Oxford, Pennsylvania, which is ten miles from Gettysburg Pa. The only logical explanation I can offer is, I guess Comcast, my provider is from there, but nonetheless, I have to offer no reason to you or anyone. Every word I have spoken is the 100% truth.
TEAM:  Well that changes everything.

Received via Email 05.18.09  Dude.  You couldn't just take the HOPE YOU HAD A NICE STAY and left it at that.  You had to go tweaking.  You're the same doosh who was in here a year ago from the DC area.  You know this and you know that but the one thing that you don't know how to do is to keep out of other peoples business without telling them theirs.  You've got a buddy on the job, yada yada.  You came visiting, yada yada.  I hope your entire view of us comes from him or from this website.  Either way you'll never know enough to be satisfied so what's your point?  You aren't going to keep us from losing a fire station of keep us from laying people off so what's your point?  I don't have access to the monthly fire dept. rag or I'd spout off there so this is where I do it.  If you don't like what you read here or you're too embarrassed for my chiefs or my city or your buddy at 12 or 13 I'll buy you a plane ticket and you can come take a physical with me while my asst. cheif cups my balls.  Ball cuppers suck and so do vollunteers!!!

Received via Email 05.18.09  Are they all this snotty in Pennsylvania?

Received via Email 05.18.09  Isn't Pennsylvania where they have the "City of Brotherly Ball Cupping?"  I think it's where they invented the move made famous recently where you tap your foot near the men's room stall next to yours for some serious ball cupping. 
And that guy ate in one of our fire stations? Hope they washed the silver.

Received via Email 05.18.09  Is Pennsylvania ballcupper going make cup all balls in firehouse yes? He is sound real nice.

Received via Email 05.18.09  Here we go again.  How is it that every swinging dick from another department thinks that he and his department have the the market cornered on what we should all be doing?  I've driven by DC fire stations and they're all shit holes.  DC is a shit hole.  Sorry we don't have more hand shaking and hugging at spaghetti dinners that we throw to buy the next piece of fire equipment but we've got a budget for that shit.  Oh and all of you f***ers from up north...... stay up north.

Received via Email 05.18.09  Yakov know one like Pennsylvania man in old country. Is man who make sexy time with young boy. Is make real much sexy time with Yakov little cousin and not pay uncle like planned.  Is bad man Pennsylvania make sexy time with boy.

Received via Email 05.18.09  Howdy. I'm from Texas and was just in town and had a wonderful meal at station's #3 and #8.  Great food and great guys.

Received via Email 05.18.09  By the way, your department sucks. F**k all of you squirrel motherfu**ers.
TEAM:  Now that's more like it.  We know where you're coming from.

Received via Email 05.18.09  Is that true?! Is it true that motherfu**er from Pe**sylvania fu**ed Yakov's little cousin in the ass?  That sick motherfu**er better not come knocking on my firehouse door for one of his charity meals!  That motherfu**er.

Received via Email 05.18.09  LOL.....true St Pete style, I love it!

Received via Email 05.18.09  Hey did that guy from Transylvania have a moustache?

Received via Email 05.18.09  It's not Transylvania you stupid douche bag it's Pennsylvania.  Transylvania is where blood sucking vampires come from.  Pennsylvania is apparently full of hungry free loading firefighters.  Why can't they just eat at Crabby Bill's like all the other tourists?

Received via Email 05.19.09  RE Chief Ward's EMS week memo:
The week of May 17-23, 2009 is proclaimed as EMS Week. The Rescue Division has traditionally provided department personnel with a gesture of appreciation in the form of a gift. Unfortunately, the current economic environment will not support this expenditure. Perhaps as we move into a more economically stable atmosphere, the division can support past practices once again.

Therefore, on behalf of the Rescue Division, I wish to thank you for your continued support and efforts of delivering exceptional medical care to the residents and visitors of the City of
St. Petersburg. The following events are scheduled throughout the city during EMS Week:

Seems that the only thing that administration has a lot of is work for us and a bunch of empty words that they appreciate(?) us. Too bad that they don't back up their empty words.

According to TBO.COM salaries for our "administrators" are:
Chief Large: $129,150.00 (not counting his $80,000+ city pension)
Chief Wimberly: $114,047.00
Chief Jolley: $114,047.00 (not counting his DROP)
Chief Lanning: $100,288.00 (not counting his DROP)
Chief Ballou: $100,288.00
Chief Ward: $99,858.74

Grand total for our "administrators" salaries is $657,678.74. This does not include pensions or DROPs.

Seems to me that if WE really are the BEST as they say (AND WE ARE), they should be able to use a pry bar and open up their wallets to spring for a $5.00 token for all of us. But again just empty words from our in name only "administrators". ACTION MEANS MORE THAN WORDS!!!

Received via Email 05.19.09  Whoa, hang on a second.  I am Chief Large's Feng Shui coach and I can tell you that guys like me don't come cheap. Not only does he need every nickel of those salaries, he also has a house that has a wonderful positive energy flow, and is perfectly in tune with both the heaven and the earth. That cost big bucks you cheap stupid fireman dopes.  Sorry about the harsh poop style language but you fart brains really got me P.O.'d.
TEAM:  Holding back is much appreciated.  You can never tell when you're going to be critiqued by firefighters from a big league department.

Received via Email 05.19.09  Whoa, hang on a second.  I am Sun Tzu - Chief Wimberly's war chief and I say that you're all talking out of turn.  I've installed a microchip in Jim's head and at the mere thought of ball cupping during your physical he takes on the persona of the PUNISHER.  He becomes a perfect killing machine, balancing the teaching of his daddy the Mayor and that of the League of Cities.  Don't cross this man.  Get your physical and share as much information about your personal life with the city.  It's for your own good.

Received via Email 05.20.09  OH we hate our chief as well, he is a schmuck, he would be great for the city of St Pete, he has bought into that asshole chief in Pheonix's way of thinking, you know the guy, "we serve customers", "two in two out bullshi", "wear safety vests", and our personal favorite " EMS is best" way of thinking. Yep, he would do your dept well.

It' hilarious to me that every guy and woman of your GREAT deptartment including a very well respected captain (E7) that I had the priviledge to meet and talk shop with during my visit, asked me questions about my dept, and every one of them said, WOW, you guys do it right. But only the firemen on this site think we suck, we blow, we're gay and whatever other elementary BS rhetoric you like to throw around. Its cool, as your comments provide me with my daily humor, all the while embarrasing the other members of your dept. on a daily basis.

Dont get me wrong, we have our issues, mainly our chief, but you seldome to never will see us airing our dirty laundry on the internet for the world to see and judge us in a negative manner. COme sit in a house, you will hear the men bitch about policies that make no sense, but you wont see them embarrising the dept. as is dont here on a post by post basis.

Received via Email 05.20.09  Amen, brother.

Received via Email 05.20.09   5/20 #1, We here aren't so backward as to think that a bunch of freeloading ball cuppers couldn't still run a pretty decent northern fire department.  Far be it from us to cast aspersions on the rich tradition of firefighting in your Pennsylvania town, bravely carried on by valiant ball cuppers like yourself.  Bravo, brave ball cupper.  Bravo.

Is that what you needed to hear?

And you're right, the captain at #7 is the best. We are as lucky to have him as one of our leaders as you were to find him when you were out panhandling for free food.  The crew at Station #7 is made up of fine people.  Glad to hear from one of their charity cases.

Received via Email 05.20.09   I feel bad now about that poor firefighter that visited us from Pennsylvania.  Times are tough up there.  Does anyone know where we can send him some more of station 13's leftovers?

Received via Email 05.20.09  Uh, well....... I don't really hate anybody.  But, I don't care for sellouts too much either.  Two in two out is for my safety.  If I don't watch out for me, who will?  I like safety vests.  Firefighters all over the country are killed by assholes behind the wheel every day.  When I'm driving an engine and I'm at a crash scene my primary responsibility is to wear a vest and watch traffic that will kill my crew.  We don't have enough cops available to us so I can live with the vest.  Also, EMS pays 80% of the freight so who am I to question?  As to the rest of your scribble, it's your opinion and I've already blown that out of the water just dealing with the first paragraph. 

You're opinionated and no better than us.  You're just a nosy fu**er.

Received via Email 05.20.09  Apparatus placement is how you protect your crew, shut the roadway down is the best way to protect your crew. Dont worry what the cops say about having to keep it open, if it must be open, leave them there to tend to the incident.

How can St Pete do two in two out, when you only run with three, and maybe four one what three engine companies? So you wait as the fire grows waiting on the next company....terrible practices. Its not you, the mens fault your city doesnt care about your safety, but you wanna talk about poor practices.

Nosey fu**er huh? Naa, Im just someone who enjoys laughing at some of the most foolish looking people in the job.

Received via Email 05.20.09  What exactly is that Pennsylvania faggot saying about EMS?  Is he one of those lazy turds that only wants to do his 15% by watching fallen wires while the paramedics are out paying the rent?  What a low rent lazy ass freeloading piece of shit co**sucker. 

Received via Email 05.20.09  He's not just a nosy fu**er.  He's a nosy ballcupping motherfu**er.

Received via Email 05.21.09  So in Pennsylvania two firefighters run into burning buildings without backup.  No wonder he's panhandling for free food in Florida, he's got the same mental disability that most of our street people have.

Received via Email 05.21.09  Pennsylvania - the Macho State!

Received via Email 05.21.09   I used to have this gay neighbor that got lost in Pennsylvania and stopped in a New Oxford fire station to ask for directions.  The firefighters of course picked up on the fact that he was gay and as a courtesy, they all blew him.  I think he is a district chief there now.

Received via Email 05.21.09  I'm not going to say anything bad about another's state or FD.  That's all bullshit  This odd fellow blows in and out of this website with comments like he's some kind of firefighting sage.  I don't recall that he's published anywhere and even at that, who cares?  Why do we listen or talk to such bitches?  I don't care if he has 1 or 10 friends on this job.  It's obvious that he can't keep his opinions to himself as he believes whatever he says and thinks we're going to implement change based on his words.  Oh and another thing, to admit that you work for a chief that you hate.....what's that say about your political power.  I'm only speaking for me but I don't hate either one of our two suck jobs.  The differnce between you and me is I know that we're ultimately in charge.  I don't have to hate them.  I pity their weakness.

Received via Email 05.21.09  BCFD is one of the smaller departments in Pennsylvania.  But what Ball Cupper Fire Department lacks in size, they make up for with rim jobs.

Received via Email 05.22.09  My God, some of you have the narrowist minds....Im thinking the SPFD is made up of gay firefighters since thats all you guys talk about.

Received via Email 05.22.09  Didnt you know?  They are log cabin republicans.  The fag part of the republican party.

Received via Email 05.24.09  You say "fag" like it's a bad thing.  Well let me tell you something about fags, buddy boy.  If it wasn't for fags most of Pennsylvania would have burned to the ground years ago.  Sure, the firefighters there like to suck co**. So what?  We here in St. Petersburg are forward thinking enough to appreciate that even the co**sucking faggots of Pennsylvania have the right to save other peoples lives.

I just hope they wear gloves if they ever have to lay a hand on me.

Received via Email 05.24.09  I am totally convinced that you guys are REALLY FAGs.  SPFR's best.  WOW!!!
TEAM:  That's only because you've never met a fag that you liked (down in Bradenton).  We're all likeable fags.

Received via Email 05.24.09 I.P. 68.46.124.204 - I wonder how many of you surperb jerkoffs have the balls to say the things you write here to my face? The answer to that is zero I would be willing to bet. I am headed back down later in the year, since my friends there know who most of you junior jerk offs are and what station you work at, it wont be hard to confront your toughness face to face, especially you mr. moderator of this site. E9 isn't hard to find. I'm sure not one of you have the balls to ever repeat the stuff your too afraid to sign your real name to here.
Mr. Moderator:  And your name is?
You're obviously a tough-guy (Internet type) and to be perfectly honest, I'm now so afraid that I just shit myself.  You'd better stay away from me - I'm warning you.

Now go and convince your family, friends and volunteer buddies that you've gotten yourself into a pissing match with a bunch of guys who you don't know; are a thousand miles from you and have questioned your motives as being something less than apropos.  Check back with us later and tell us all how proud they are of the fact that in your mind, you're on a quest to defend GOD and country.  We'll be right over here waiting.

Received via Email 05.24.09  Oh my... these Pennsylvania boys are so absolutely butch!

Received via Email 05.25.09  What an absolute puss.  Apparently us Florida boys can fight all day long and never threaten one another.  I've never heard of such a thing in the fire service.  I can't imagine who on the job down here will admit to knowing such a caveman. 

Received via Email 05.25.09  MR John Pearl of E9-B shift, lets set the record straight, I did not pick a fight with anyone. I came to your site and made a statement thanking members of your fine dept. for the hospitality they offered up while on my visit. You guys turned this into the pissing match it is, by suggesting I was a beggar for food, I was a homo, a ball cupper and said my deot sucks. I never once attacked you nor your dept until backed into a corner by the whiz kids on here. NEVER ONCE!
Like I said before, I paid for my meals with MY money even after being told to put my money away, I was a guest. So get your facts straight.

For some reason your attacking the fine men and women who volunteer their time here in Pennsylvania as volunteer firefighters. Im not a fan of volunteers myself, but thier doing so does keep my taxes at a lower level than most areas. Pennsylvania is notorious for having more volunteer depts than most states in the country. Why you would attack "them" is beyond me, just because I live here?

I met quite a few Good firemen while visiting, some great times was had chatting with them for hours, a nice vacation. Its nice to see how other depts. operate, with the hand they are dealt. You attacking me and my dept. showed true character of some, not all of the SPFR, only the ones who know their character are the ones spewing the crap on here that you do.

To the person who posted on 5.24.09, 2nd post, your wrong not all of SPFR are this ignorant, dont be fooled by the minority of their dept. they really are a fine group of firemen, its just a select group here embarras the entire dept. SPFR may very well be the best in Pinellas County, but the competition isn't all that to get the title of best. Their leaders dont care about their safety or well being, by only operating with three man engine companies or four if they have a para-god on board, and two man truck companies....this is a joke from a operational standpoint, but then again, it appears all of Florida does it this way as well. We need to invite your chief and city leaders up to the aweful north to teach them how to set up a fire dept and run it properly and safely for all of the men and women of SPFR sake, even you schmucks on here who do nothing but make yourself and your dept look petty.

This will be my last post on your site to manys delight I am sure. I thought a nice compliment to praise the men and women of SPFR was a noble idea, but once again it turned into a slug fest becasue of a small minority of assholes. You only need to be offended by that statement if it pertains to you. For the men and women who care about their dept and reputation, you will be one of the ones shaking their head saying Im right.

Be safe to ALL, respond safe and return together every time.
TEAM:  Bye!

Received via Email 05.26.09  That Pennsylvania bitch might be leaving the website, but it's a good bet that he will be freeloading more meals next time he's in town.  What a douche bag.

Received via Email 05.26.09  "You guys turned this into the pissing match it is, by suggesting I was a beggar for food, I was a homo, a ball cupper and said my deot sucks."  And for telling the truth we get you as the prize?  Man, you yankees sure are stoopid.

Received via Email 05.28.09  To bad St. Pete doesn't honor us like our counter parts in Tampa! Oh, wait it might cost something other than the lip service that they always give! http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/may/28/281527/county-honors-police-fire-rescue-workers/news-breaking/

Received via Email 05.28.09
QUESTION: How does a Pennsylvania firefighter fake an orgasm?

ANSWER:  He throws warm yogurt on your back.

Received via Email 05.29.09  When Pennsylvania firefighters come to work shit faced, it means something completely different.

Received via Email 05.29.09  Two Pennsylvania firefighters were visiting the zoo,
when they found themselves at the gorilla cage.
The gorilla was sitting there with a huge erection.
Unable to contain himself the first Pennsylvania firefighter reaches
inside the cage and tries to touch the huge co**.
As soon as arm goes into the cage the gorilla grabs him,
takes him into the cage, slams him on the floor and fu**s him senseless.
A few days later in hospital the Pennsylvania firefighter's fag boyfriend visits him and said, "Does it hurt?"
"Hurt? Hurt?" cried out the Pennsylvania firefighter, "Of course it hurts.
He hasn't phoned and he hasn't written.!"

Received via Email 05.29.09  How do  you know when you are in a Pennsylvania church for firefighters?

When only half of the congregation is kneeling.

Received via Email 05.29.09  What is a Pennsylvania Firefighter's favorite hose adaptor?

The double male.

Received via Email 05.29.09  How do Pennsylvania firefighters fight?

They go outside and exchange blows.

Received via Email 05.29.09  Two Pennsylvania firefighters were taking a shower with each other.
The phone rings and Lance says to Rod,
"I will be right back darling, so don't start without me!"
After a minute or so Lance comes back,
and sees cum splattered all over the shower wall.
"I thought I told you not to start without me!"
replied Rod, "I didn't start without you, I just farted!"

Received via Email 05.29.09  How do you know you are at a BBQ being thrown by Pennsylvania firefighters?

The hot dogs all taste like shit.
TEAM:  We're speechless.

Received via Email 05.30.09  Hey, This is the asshole that has the buddy from Pa. I just wanted to thank you guys for the way you treated my friend when he came down here. I wasn't going to say anything on this site because I think it's BS. But after I read all of this nonsence I felt like I had to.So thanks alot for showing him how this Dept. really is. Now you can go ahead a bash me like you did my buddy.

Received via Email 06.01.09  Hey asshole's buddy, it's okay.  Some of my friends are assholes and a few of them are even faggots.  It doesn't make you or me bad guys, it means that we are open minded.  Are you one of the 3 or 4 gay dudes on our job?  If you are then I want you to read all of those Pennsylvania faggot jokes and replace "Pennsylvania Firefighter" with your name.  See how funny the jokes become when you can relate to them?  Some of the jokes you might have to change the wording around a little to make it work, but it's all good, bitch.

Received via Email 06.01.09  In old country Yakov is has trouble with the gay man. He is bring to me the big gay talk and the big gay walk. Is gay man bring with the change of Yakov mind? Yakov not gay boy like the Pennsylvania firefighter with boyfriend in St. Petersburg. Yakov straight as line between big American penis and mouth of Pennsylvania firefighter.

Received via Email 06.01.09  Just as I thought. I can see I was waisting my time.

You know you're in trouble when...

Received via Email 06.02.09  "Yakov straight as line between big American penis and mouth of Pennsylvania firefighter."

Lighten up Mr. Gay Pennsylvania Firefighter's Friend In St. Pete, that's damned funny stuff.
You didn't "waist" your time.  You inspired more entertaining posts.  Enjoy it, bitch.

Received via Email 06.03.09  I have a gay cousin that wants to visit Philadelphia later this summer.  Does anyone know which firehouse in Philly gives the best gay head?  He needs to know by late July if possible.  Thanks.

Received via Email 06.03.09  What the hell started this war?
TEAM:  We put an ad in the paper a couple of years ago looking for a Washington DC FF that could help us get our dept. back on track.  This guy showed up and told us all what was wrong and if you can believe it - some took his constructive criticism the wrong way.  Yup!  We sought him out.

Received via Email 06.04.09  OK, you sucked me back in with that last stament John. Your right, I did find your site, by a member of your dept. telling me to "check it out". So your half right, I was invited here. Through many conversations with members of your dept., as with any dept. in the nation discuss procedures, strategies, short comings etc. of our depts. All depts. have issues to contend with, be it procedural, staffing or moral of the brothers.

Your dept. has some serious issues from a procedural standpoint. I don't think you nor any of your members will contest that statement. I've seen it, read your operational procedures, they suck for the most part for firefighter safety. That statement in no way is a slap in the face of of any firefighters, its a jab at the city and its not so wise leaders. How you can take that as a personal insult is beyond me.

The staffing issues St. Pete has is un-fuckingbelievable. Three man engine companies, two man truck companies. Do any of you seriously believe this is a safe practice? Can any of you tell me your OK with this staffing policy? I know you "get the job done", we all do, (its what we're trained to do)but at what cost and what risk? This is no way is a jab at any member of SPFR.

The morale issues your dept.has are blatantly obvious by the distain for most of your leaders since you air them here for the world to see. I DID criticize for that, I will admit that. I hate seeing a fine dept. with a 100 plus year history be viewed in that manner by what is very apparent that only a small minority of the members of SPFR are publishing here. The majority may think and feel the same way, but most are just smart enough to not air their dirty laundry here for the world to see amd judge not only your dept. but you the members, which coincidently is the make up of the dept. I truely feel anyone on this job cares what the public and especially other firemen from around the world think of them as a whole. Maybe not personally, but we all represent a dept. and some can ruin it for many.

Some of you decided to take it to personal attacks on me, thats fine I have broad shoulders. I am not an elementary child who goes home and cries over the bullies calling him names, I actually laugh out loud each and every time one of you call me gay, homo or whatever derogative name you feel is warranted. Your name calling of fine volunteer Pennsylvania fire depts is unjust and so far off base, as I am not a volunteer in any dept. Your only allowing another large group of individuals to judge your dept by a select few with very childish behavior.

John, I hear you met and know who my four friends are on SPFR, still think they are assholes or gay? Or do you respect the over eighty years combined they have on the job as good firemen and officers? It's very easy to attack with childish name calling when your behind a computer screen, but much harder when face to face and they tell you " yeah, he's my friend, problem with that?"

Like always, I bid you all good, respond safely, return with all of your crew and go home to your families safe and be ready for what this job throws at you next.
TEAM: You assume far more than facts will substantiate and you throw down too many straw-men.  You've been called a lot things on this site by many, including gay.  The webmaster has repeatedly called you a nosy, intrusive prick because you are.  We don't care what you think about this dept. or its staffing, 2-in-2-out, safety vests, bells ringing to wake us up at 0700 or procedural guidelines, et. al.  If there are those on this job that have something to say and wish to use this web site (with or without their name or their 100 years of experience) they are free to do so and rarely with an edit.  Far too many people go through life with a mouth full of shit but never say shit.  What they don't need - what we don't need is a speaking surrogate from out of state who loves to read his own text.  We don't give a fuck what you say --- you serve no purpose --- but you just don't get it.  You're a nosy, intrusive prick and that's that.  Doddle here no longer.  Your time and talents are needed elsewhere.  You kept your mouth shut for two years, now see if you can make it for another two.

Received via Email 06.04.09  As far as I am concerned, if the Pennsylvania faggot disrespects our administration, he disrespects all of us. Growing up most of us occasionally disagreed with our parents, but that wasn't a green light for people outside the family to take shots at mom or dad. 
I can't imagine going into a Pennsylvania fire station, being fed a meal, shown around the place, reviewed their SOP's, then turn around and bad mouth their administration in front of all these men and women that just treated me with such respect.  
On the other hand, if I was in a Pennsylvania fire station it would be because I am looking to nail a few dudes in their asses--- which I personally am not in to.

You fuck with our chief, you fuck with all of us.  Our administration is our problem, not some out of town pole smoker's.

Fuck this faggot from Pennsylvania, and the bare assed boy he rode in on.
TEAM:  What he said.

Received via Email 06.04.09  It wasnt a bare ass boy, it was your momma and sista!!!

Received via Email 06.04.09  #2 08/04 I was trying to figure out what it was tht bothered me most about this guy and you hit the nail on the head. He's like an univited guest who comes in and rearranges the house while your not looking. You didn't ask for it and you didn't need it. When he's done he gets upset with you when you tell him to leave. What a dumb shit.

Received via Email 06.04.09  I'm the webmaster and my initials are JW.  You're all my bitches.

Received via Email 06.04.09  You know what bothers me the most?  That Pennsylvania faggot is here on the STRAIGHT dope page. The only thing straight about that guy is his dick when he sees us working. Do you know how much semen that guy can hold?  A butt load. But seriously, I kid faggots......

Received via Email 06.07.09  Now I know why I stopped coming to this site. It's because of childish bullshit like this. How can you talk about a brother firefighter like that. Have you forgotten that this is a BROTHERHOOD, it doesn't matter what Dept. he's from he is still a BROTHER firefighter. You guys need to grow up and get a clue. A brother or sister FF should be able to go into any fire station in the U.S. and be treated with the same respect that you would want if it were you. You guys that make these posts are not true firefighters, if you were you would not talk the way you do. I apologize to you PA guy for the short comings of the very few that post here. Unfortunately they are the ones that make us all look bad. I am most disappointed by the web master for his postings. I used to have the utmost respect for you until you said the things you said especially being the C shift VP of the union. I think this is conduct unbecoming of a union official and should be brought to the attention of the E-Board.
TEAM: We are of the opinion that everyone is entitled to their opinion.  With that said, it is our opinion that you should go back and look at some of the posts made by the DC firefighters that descended upon this websiite a little over two years ago.  A closer look might give you some background as to why some are so hostile.
"Have you forgotten that this is a BROTHERHOOD, it doesn't matter what Dept. he's from he is still a BROTHER firefighter."
Apparently in spite of the fact that this is a "BROTHERHOOD" some people do get defensive.  You know - much like you have.

Received via Email 06.07.09  I think that this Pennsylvania faggot was treated with the utmost respect when he visited our fire stations.  He even was allowed to look through our SOPs.  Then he went home and started bad mouthing our chief, which is our job and not his.  Fuck the faggot.  I respect your opinion, my brother.  But I have no respect for this turncoat faggot that turned on us.  Fuck him. 

Received via Email 06.07.09   To #1 6/07....Now I know why I stopped coming to this site. It's because of childish bullshit like this.

Yeah, me too.  I quit coming one day and I was right back the next.  Know how you feel.

Received via Email 06.08.09  WOW!!  Yeah web master go back and read the pennsylvania guys post.  He wasnt hostile until you and your log cabin republican buddies started all this gay talk against him.
TEAM:  So you're saying he was a dick two years ago and he's not.  They guy's still a nosey prick and intruder.

Received via Email 06.08.09  To 6.8 #1:  The Pennsylvania tranny wasn't hostile, but he was critical of our administration.  He was also still a faggot.  What was your point?

"Fireman for a Day"
http://www.studio10.tv/day/monday/segment.aspx/107173/Fireman_for_a_Day

Received via Email 06.10.09  My point is that for someone who supposed to be so manly sure talk about a lot of gay shit all the time.  I am convinced that some of you guys are gay.  Instead of responding to this man like a man.  You respond to him like a bunch of fags.  I believe your only response to me will be "tada" more gay shit.  FUCKING SAD. 

Received via Email 06.10.09  If you haven't been to the union's website and seen the Richey Johnson memo then you're missing the truth about the big non event of the year and that's our manning situation.. Log in and go to the downloads section and it'll be at the top.  I can't wait till they print Jimmy's response. I understand that he throws Richey right under the bus. It must be a bitch working for that mayor, huh Jimbo? Kneepads permanently sewn in place are they?

Received via Email 06.10.09  Well I see that the physicals paperwork has made it to the k drive.  Doesn't look like the assholes at the top have learned a single lesson.  The two jimmies got their heads squashed by the federal judge who told them that we don't have to sign shit anymore and they've loaded the forms up with all kinds of get out of jail free shit for Lifescan.  I guess I won't be running on their treadmill anytime soon!

Received via Email 06.11.09  I read that Immies house of cards may come crashing down?  What are they going to do with the #2 guys since Lealmann won the bid?  Is jimmies going to have to start blowing baker again?

Received via Email 06.12.09  I hear one of the guys from 2 took matters into his own hand.....

Received via Email 06.13.09  Looks like the incompetence of our leadership (the 2 Jimmies) is starting to publicly show. Even Clearwater has a better department than we do. What has happened to St. Pete being the BEST? Now that some of our problems have been brought to light maybe we will see some improvement, like a CLEAN HOUSE at the paper palace!   www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1009860.ece

Received via Email 06.17.09  Troxler had a nice article.  What about our famous accredidation?  Has anyone told them yet?  Or will Jimmie lie as usual. http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/fire/article1010408.ece#comments

Received via Email 06.22.09  Rumor has it that the myor was overheard at the Vinoy expressing support of Devron.  Well there goes the city.  An illegitimate child with 2 kids with 2 different mommies and he says he is the moral beacon.  Yeah right.  Well if that happens Large is safe and so is the shoe shiner Jimmie #2.  And Luke William will be PD chief.  This city will go to hell in a hand bag.

Received via Email 06.22.09  Even the "Times" knows that Large is screwed up!
http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1011951.ece

Received via Email 06.22.09  Everyday that I wake up I thank God that I'm not as gullible as some on this dept. Large is making rounds with his newspaper quote in hand and asking people to reread it and tell him just what does it mean. Bottom line is, nothing he has to say to me will ever convince me that he isn't covering for his boss the mayor. He'd gladly sell his soul to the devil to keep his job and he knows he serves at the pleasure as one of the dickheads downtown likes to say. He's a broken record on a lot of subjects that don't fly so the question is, who are we going to support for mayor and if it's a candidate that supports shoving the police chief over the rails can we support shoving the two jimmies over with him? What rhymes with, If I had all the money in the world my minimum manning on trucks would still be 2? Chief, you've got to get a new story because your credibility is shot with most of us.

Received via Email 06.22.09  What rhymes with "I'm too slow to understand what minimum means?"  Large is right, if they tripled our budget the minimum staffing would still be 2 on the truck.  Why don't you whiners get that?  The guy is just playing the hand he was dealt. 
And why is it such a surprise that he would do what he has to do to keep from getting fired?  I notice I didn't hear about you kicking the chief's ass when he talked to you about this, were you afraid of getting fired?  No, you probably were the first one to stand when he walked in the room so you could run and fix him a nice hot cup of coffee.   You sure type tough, though.  All bark, no bite.  Hell of a firefighter.

Received via Email 06.22.09  I barely stand when either jimmy comes in the door. It's one thing to lie but it's another thing to lie day in and day out and really sell it. Why don't we just make today "Jimmy Large gets a pass day" and pretend he doesn't like jamming us all up. Lets see how we all feel about him after the next hurdle and the next. You know its coming. There are fire chiefs here in Florida that have the respect of labor as well as the mayor that they work for.  Jim Large, Jim Callahan and Jimmy the punisher have never been in that category.  As soon as they leave the room nobody taks bad about them. Right.

Received via Email 06.22.09  WOW!!!  He barely stands when the chief walks in the room.  Either you do or you don't stand.  Which is it.    
Received via Email 06.22.09  Look at the officers at 4A they are the but buddies of Large as well as the crew.  You too Kadou.  How do you think you got those awards.  You shuld have stayed in Hillsborough.

Received via Email 06.22.09  Its good to see the chief 1 friend and protector in here again.

Received via Email 06.22.09  Goes to show how much you know.  Kadou never worked in Hillsborough.  Your on here throwing that man out there like that.t You what shift and station he's assigned to.

Received via Email 06.24.09  I worked for K**ou in Hillsborough when he was a captain there. He was a madman.  He shot my brother in the arm with a 38 special.  My brother was just there to fill the soda machine.  I filed a greivance but lost.

Received via Email 06.24.09  That is bullshit about K**ou shooting that guys brother.  I heard it was self defense.

Received via Email 06.24.09   Yakov make big mistake! Life Scan is give Yakov venereal sex disease with dirty probe! Is burn when make water. Yakov girlfriend not happy with Life Scan.

TEAM:  Nahhhh... we're not posting that.  Too mean spirited.  Find one of 'them' to beat on.

Received via Email 06.25.09  WARNING: Ever since word got out that LifeScan actually scans your scrotum, a lot of Pennsylvania firefighters have been trying to sneak in and watch.

Received via Email 06.25.09  Hmmmmm......... http://cms.firehouse.com/web/online/News/Fingers-Point-to-Budget-Cuts-in-Michigan-Fatal-Fire-/46$64205

Received via Email 06.29.09   I cant believe that the 2 jimmies have agreed to let us enter into a contractual situation we a happy ending is most certainly the final result. Wait until PD finds out about the goings on in that little windowless room. Then it will Bracelets for everybody.

Received via Email 06.29.09  Well, now that the ruling favors the most qualified candidates does that mean the most qualilfied will get promoted?  Or will the 2 jimmies find a different way to discriminate.

Received via Email 06.29.09  Don't read the latest firehouse article because something like that could never happen here. Jimmy Large would never lie cheat or endanger our lives. He told me so.
http://cms.firehouse.com/web/online/News/Supreme-Court-Rules-in-Favor-of-White-Firefighters-in-Promotions-Case/46$64298

Received via Email 07.01.09  Hey 6/22 are you talking about Kadau? First spell his name right then get his station and shift right. he hasn't done anything to anyone, you must have an ID problem.

Received via Email 07.01.09  Ohhhhhhhhhh.  Your punk ass in here crying about one case compared to millions of african americans and latinos being fu**ed by your system. Need to look no further than Jacksonville fire and rescue. I See you didnt place that article on here when the ruling came out on that.  Your so called BROTHERS north of here was getting fu**ed also.  www.firefightingnews.com/article.cfm?articleID=66925

Received via Email 07.01.09  Is that true about D kadou.  HQ will not comment and no one will either.  does that meanit happened?

Received via Email 07.01.09  So how exactly could an entrance exam for Jacksonville Fire be discriminatory against blacks? 

Received via Email 07.01.09  OK, let's see if you can find something to bitch about here. http://www.heritage.org/Research/EnergyandEnvironment/wm2504.cfm

Received via Email 07.03.09  Well we see that the puppy has once again cowered to the big hand of the Mayor and has submitted a budget that did little to save the jobs of our newest hires. I am saddened to see that this department feels that it can rely on its ISO ranking and the accredation stickers on the vehicles to keep each of us safe, and still get the jobs done. So what if it takes 2 extra vehicles to respond to fire scenes, I for one will enjoy driving into the parts of town that I dont get to on a regular basis. I hope the extra 10 minutes on the road under emergency conditions wont contribute to an increase in any accidents. We all need to preach safety to each other on a constent basis and watch each other like never before. You cant expect help from anyone else but yourself.

Received via Email 07.09.09  Yep big JL has pulled a Palin! Go figure...

Received via Email 07.09.09  imagine that there is a shocker.

Received via Email 07.12.09  whos the ole timer that got popped for DUI?  Since Callahan is gone we can rule him out.

Received via Email 07.13.09  How knows. Maybe JC rpde his scooter, or Monroe County chiefs car here!

Received via Email 07.14.09  Hey, Im white, educated and on the top 5 list.  But, I do not back stab people and am not a power drinker. No arrests and do not sleep with other peoples wives or girlfriends.  Will I still get promoted?

Received via Email 07.16.09  Start sleeping with other guys wives.  That might help.  Just ask some A and B shift officers and blue shirts.

Received via Email 07.16.09  You do not have a chance 7/14, so go f*** yourself.

Editor, I put the *** in for you.
TEAM: That-a-boy...

Received via Email 07.16.09 Probably not, dumbass.

Received via Email 07.16.09  You got to love it: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Received via Email 07.16.09  What if I power drink get dui s and screw a FD secretary or someone elses wife on the dept.  Will I get promoted.  Do I have to be a JW also?

Received via Email 07.17.09  Probably not, dumbass.

Received via Email 07.23.09  The Postal Service created a stamp with a picture of President Obama, but immediately was inundated with complaints that it was not adhering to envelopes.

The president was enraged and ordered a full investigation.
After a month of testing and $1.73 million in congressional spending, a  special presidential commission presented the following findings:

* The stamp is in perfect order.
* There is nothing wrong with the adhesive.
* People are spitting on the wrong side.

Received via Email 07.23.09  Don't you just love this stuff?  http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51443

Obama is such a moron.  I don't have anything else to say right now, but I thought that saying that Obama is a moron was worth mentioning. I don't know if you print that sort of thing in here, but it really is true.  He's a moron.  He was able to fool enough of America's slow learners to get elected, and now we are all going to be paying for it for a long time.  Again, he is a moron.  If anyone takes the time to disagree with me in here, and in case I don't get the chance to respond later, let me say this about that person who disagrees with my statement:  That person is a bigger moron than Obama.  Perhaps even a buffoon.

Thank you.

Senator Lieberman

Received via Email 07.23.09  If the post office tried to give me Obama stamps, I would go more postal than any of those loose cannons ever dreamed of being.

Received via Email 07.29.09  http://www.whispersresort.com/sunset-vistas.htm

Received via Email 07.29.09  When is Loser Lanning leaving, we know it is soon.  This will be one of the greatest days ever in SPFR history. Good riddance scatter matter.  
TEAM:  We were wrapping his axe the other day and he spoke highly of you...

Received via Email 07.29.09  What does the term "benefit of the the doubt" mean to all of you? I gave JL the benefit of the doubt when he was selected by the mayor to be our chief. I've seen little from him in the way of anything new and innovative. If you listen to him talk real close, you can hear Dick Baker speaking. JL has no voice of his own which means he'll never be the man. This dept. is run by a group of puppets that have little in common with the firefighters that protect this city. I wish the union would do a records request for the chief's cell phone usage and show everyone just how little fire chief we have and how much mayor we have.  FTM PB&S Stay low and let it blow.
TEAM: So the word leaked out!

Received via Email 07.30.09  I couldn't have said it better myself. The honeymoon's over.

Received via Email 07.31.09  If you want I did do a records check from my other job.  I accessed his cell phone.  Where should I post them?

Received via Email 08.01.09  Post them here.  What's it matter anyways?  His suckle daddy the mayor will soon be gone.  I don't need phone records to prove to me that JL has no spine.  He's never had one and never needed one.  It's not like he's ever stuck his neck out for a firefighter.  He's only worked for numero uno.

Received via Email 08.01.09  Now that Obama has proven himself to be a cop hating racist moron, does anyone know if Barfield is okay?

Received via Email 08.05.09  Hey JL and JW can you start counting your days ending now that we endorsed a real candidate.  We will all be glad when you are gone.  Most of us will give you that extra push off the cliff.

Received via Email 08.06.09  Well I hear that Chief Competelli of Belleair Bluffs got fired last night by their mayor. From the phone conversation that I had with someone up that way the only people there backing this pro labor chief were union members. What ever happened to the chiefs organization?

Received via Email 08.06.09  What? do you mean? Don't you know? Every at will admisitrative Fire Chief in this county, knows the Motto of the League of Cities all to well, "Go against one and you are done". They all know that showing solodarity for one another in this type of injustice is the same as speaking out against the Mayor, therefore they are speaking out against their own. Cowardness must be a great way to live cause they protect it so.

Received via Email 08.06.09   I hear that Mayor Baker was shown disrespect from all walks of life today. First he got slapped around by the unions and the city council, then he got the smack down by the little kids that broke his hand while he was pretending that he is younger than he wants to believe, and then those darned crooks smacked him in his sense of fairness by breaking into his home. Heres the best part, his very own Police officers were too busy to respond to the call. Chief Harmon was located at the nearest donut buffet and was the only one that could come to his aid. But not before he waited safely behind station 4 for extra help. Hey Mayor, hows it feel?

Received via Email 08.06.09  I found it very interesting that the SP Times wrote a short article about Jaimie Bennett stading on a corner all by his lonesome holding one of his signs. It kinda reminded me of Fatburger a couple of years ago. We were all holding signs for our candidates (hey....... they all won asshole) and there he was standing all alone with the wrong sign. What an utter fool.

Received via Email 08.07.09  If it wasn't the federal gov't., I'd have thought it was a city of St. Pete concoction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqfuZ7hiap0

Received via Email 08.08.09  Well now that the City Council has come around and done what is expected of them, when is our union going to do something for us.

Received via Email 08.08.09  It was'nt Bennett you saw standing on the corner is was fatburger in a Bennett suit. You'll never see them together. If it's a losing cause, they're interchangeable.

Received via Email 08.08.09  8/8 #1 Personally, I'm not going to do anything that would please your lazy ass. When you have to ask what the union is going to do for YOU, I already know that you don't get it and that you're going to do nothing for yourself, me or anyone else. Let me ask YOU something. Can YOU name anything that the union (that may or may not include you) has done for any of us?

Everyone should watch their email for news from "info@Local747" for the latest information regarding dates and times that you can help affect local political campaigns.  When in doubt, call 323-1786.

The following is time sensitive.  We've been waiting sixteen years for someone like Kathleen Ford to run for office.  Now is the time to earn her trust and her respect.

What:             Volunteering at Kathleen Ford's Campaign Headquarters Office

Day/Date:       Any day, Any Date.

Location:        Campaign Headquarters 120 6th Street South. St. Petersburg.

Time:              Any Time 

Contact:          N/A

The office is staffed all day. Help in the next two weeks is more critical than at any other time in the campaign. There is lots of fun to be had. If you would like to help with our mailings or work on the phone bank,   Please stop by our campaign headquarters at your convenience at 120 6th Street South. St. Petersburg.

Received via Email 08.14.09  to all you callahan haters . have any of you ever had  a drink and then drove ? if not my hats off to you . but if you have had even one drink and  drove shut the f@#*  up your no better . even worst. because all you do is lie about it.

Received via Email 08.14.09  what  a bunch of panty waste  your cried  with callahan now your cring with JL and JW  you wanted change live with !

Received via Email 08.18.09  http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/civil/judge-orders-st-petersburg-to-return-police-officers-pension-contributions/1028788

Received via Email 08.19.09  This is a MUST SEE for all the Kool Aid drinkers:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

Received via Email 08.21.09  I wonder who the two jimmies are voting for for new puppet master?

Received via Email 08.21.09 TEAM: Nah... we're not going to print that.  All though... you're probably right!

Received via Email 08.21.09  Now you don't really think that both Jimmie's vote, do you?

Received via Email 08.21.09  For those of you reading this that haven't helped, we've had a pretty productive past few days politicking. We've stuffed loads of literature bags at Kathleen Ford's HQ and then delivered much of what we produced. We've built large signs. We stood in the rain with Ford signs during the debates at the Palladium and also got a bit wet for a time at the Devil Rays game while working with Angela Rouson, tonight. We stood with Kathleen in northeast part of town and again today at Tyrone and 66 Street. The lonely Bill Foster poser that we encountered couldn't stand the heat, so he got out of the kitchen. We blanketed the area with gold and black and it didn't go unnoticed by some of Kathleen's organizers. They said that it wasn't difficult to find the firefighters in those gold shirts! When the day was done we all enjoyed good food and friends and the Devil Rays game at the northeast WingHouse.  Call 323-1786 or stop by the union hall to help. There's something to do every day and our help is showing some very positive results.

Received via Email 08.22.09  Apprently the Mayor is beginning to feel the effects the Union movement is having on this political race. While he has yet to personally endorse a candidate, it will be a surprise to see. So for you non-believers, we took some control away from the Mayor in the last go around and He is fully aware of what we are doing now and he is once again afraid of what we are capable of. So dont let the Mayor or one of his marionette's try to convince you into believing otherwise.
TEAM:  Correctomundo- The following has been on this website since the last election cycle.  It was found on the cops message board:

If it is any consolation the PBA is no better [than the FOP].  They have not seemed to wake up to the fact that police unions here are powerless because the City does not negotiate.  They know the unions are powerless and they exploit that.  The city could care less about the unions.  That being said the unions should spend every waking moment being a thorn in the side of the city.  Don't play nice with them, cause they will just FU in the long run.  Now before you union reps start crying about how the rest of us need to step up, may I point out the fire union.  You don't get more participation and cohesiveness than the local fire union, but even with that they get F-ed by the city every time they bend over.  What they do a good job at is mobilizing votes.  Just ask Ed Montanari. 

Received via Email 08.22.09  http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/times-editorial-board-bill-foster-for-st-petersburg-mayor/1029404
I thought this was a pretty good comment from the peanut gallery at the bottom of the page: "77.5% posters here adamantly oppose Times' endorsement. Unite behind clear front runner Ford."  I wish I had posted it, but I'm glad to be one of the 77.5% of the peanuts.

Received via Email 08.22.09  Another reason the Mayor is pissed off is that he was recently TOLD by the city council what he would do for the employees of this city. This was done BECAUSE of your Unions. Not too many of the past Mayors have ever had to lay down and ceed to the unions demeands.

Received via Email 08.22.09  Yes.. and thank you for pointing out my conflict.. although I am very much for the strongest and most efficient bargaining unit, because bigger is better that way, I am still a resident of St. Pete and fearful of giving up the best fire department in the county to the county.  A bean counter in the county office could decide the stations 10 and 6 are close enough together where one could be elemenated.. we would have no fight, and he would have no intererst.. I am sure many of the members of local 747 remember these issues have come up before when funding is short, and by the foresight of some very good fire deparment leadership we were able to keep the station (it was usually #6)..

Received via Email 08.22.09  8-22 # 4, Thanks for coming into the game about 35 years too late. Yes we have faced these games before and because of the Fire Heads afraid of losing theirs. As you should remember Local 747 envisioned this a long time ago and began bringing others into the fold. However it didnt seem to gel. However, the Local still has no problem with a one union or even a 3 union county. Now with the county pulling funding from the smaller districts and reassigning EMS responsibilities to their loyal Ass Sucks, too many Chiefs are now seeing the writing on the wall and may be moving a little to fast and to drasticly. Mistakes are going to made a jobs will suffer through pay, work hours and conditions of employment. Ask the senior guys in the Bliffs if you dont understand. As I said your coming into this about 35 years too late and if it is going to happen you can be assured that it will be a plus that Local 747 has a City Leader that is willing to make sure that the city is well protected and retains the proper size force that it needs and deserves. Of course this will all change if this city chooses to pick a Leauge of Cities follower that would rather build on its reserves instead of its dwindling strengths.

Received via Email 08.25.09  For those of you who love to bash Fox News, ABC has banned this video  http://www.newsmaxstore.com/contribute/lav/video.htm  I've never heard of Fox banning a advertisers video before but I don't care since they're in 1st place all night long.

Received via Email 08.25.09  Thanks to everyone that showed up tonight for Kathleen at 22 and 34 st. no.  We're gonna do this thing up!

Received via Email 08.27.09   A secret squirrel told me today that someone on the C shift at the MFS is going to run against Winnie Newton for president and the main reason for his running is because for the past 8 years Winnie hasn't done shit for us! When I heard that I just about pissed myself by laughing and I just had to ask if chief Large was buying the stamps to mail out his campaign speech. For all of you who are grown up, you'll recognized this as an act of desperation on the part of the chief and a few of his suck ass lackeys at the MFS. I'm not going to tell you who is running because I want to see what name is on the tip of everyones tongue as having a hope in hell of taking us back to the stoneage. I'll give you a hint. It's not one of the first 5 people that would pop into your head.
TEAM: This should be good.

Received via Email 08.27.09  I made a call to a buddy and he thinks he know who it is but isn't sure so we're keeping a lid on it to see if it comes true. Someone else is supposedly writing a campaign letter for him because he's a talker not a doer. If it's who we think it is, he hasn't done anything but complain and what's really sad is that he's being pushed by management and a few others who are afraid to look foolish running against Winnie who's done nothing but bust his ass for us. I hope he goes for it. Like a couple of others who tried in the past all his friends will tell him that they're voting for him and then they either don't vote at all or end up voting for Winnie. Great friends.

Received via Email 08.28.09  yes lets start the negative comments , he will clean up the union, stop the obese from getting  fatter, probably have more support that winnie ever had. its time for a change.
TEAM:  Agreed.  Obama says that change is good.

Received via Email 08.28.09  8-28 #1 Well, I'm still in the dark as to who it is that's going to run against Prez Newton but you might open up a newspaper to see some really dirty politics. I'm wondering what CHANGE you think we need? I can think of a couple of changes I'd make but they aren't in the management of my WAGES, HOURS AND TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT. Now let's be friends. I hear there's another dept. sponsored bus trip scheduled.

Received via Email 08.28.09  What do you mean by clean up the union?

Received via Email 08.28.09  Big Secret, dont tell anybody, (Wimmers)  Never done anything for the union or the men. Total suckass from way back. Just ask the old timers.

Received via Email 08.28.09  I know who it is, it's the poster on the open wounds page from 7.14.09. Whom else could it be. Any one that has spent any time around the union office during the past few years will gladly tell ya that there is always something going on. Its the ones that are afraid that they will be asked to do something that are the ones that dont know whats going on

Received via Email 08.28.09  the word is out Mike Wimmers has thrown his hat in the ring. Dont look at it as running against Winnie, look at it as an interested person trying to help the union. Remember Change is good. There were presidents before Winnie (Wimmers) and there will be more in the future. That doesnt make them bad just different. Strange is fun.?.

Received via Email 08.28.09  Hello Webmaster "Team" Wimmers is the guy

Received via Email 08.28.09  Wimmers for President!!!!

Received via Email 08.28.09  Click on the "Watch the Video" link above the picture: http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/MI129969/

Received via Email 08.29.09  So,  I guess with the sharing of confidential personal information, i.e. Cell phone numbers, I guess Chief Large has officially announced his intent at running for the control of Local 747 once again. While it is true that he is running under an alias of Mike Wimmers (MW) and he has promised who knows what to Ray Landes (RL) to be his campaign manager and to make the calls and send the text messages, make no mistake Chief Large and the City Administration is the driving force in this fiasco.
What surprises me the most is the faith that Chief Large has placed in such an old timer as MW. Since Jimbo has shown no interest in experience during his past promotions I find it odd that he would turn to someone in the DROP with old and outdated experience for this push. Maybe if this fails Ted Gardener will be the next one to be nominated?

While MW did in fact once serve as the secretary and as president, it must be pointed out that this was over 20+ years ago (1987 to be exact.) Now we are to believe that his flame has been relit and he is once again ready to be the leader of the local, and now wants to have everyone believe that during his last few years he is once again ready to take the reins and then leave the local in the old ways that he remembers. Oh boy, volleyball and bed races will be on the agendas again. At least the negotiations sessions will be eventful again, while I personally have enjoyed watching the cities teams squirm and choke on their words from time to time under the current team, the hands slamming on the table and walking out on the Cities negotiators will be a joy to see again. Besides the embarrassment we suffered how far did that get us in the past? Please someone remind me. Lets not forget the beer parties that will be necessary to bring the ole gang together again. I guess it's a secret but the old gangs are not here anymore.

I have heard that some of our youngsters at MW's very own station have been overheard as saying they don't know of anything that the union has accomplished during the terms of the current union leaders. I guess MW forgets about the changes that have been accomplished even in the short 3 years he has been back on the department. How hard can it be to remember that his pension has more than doubled since he came back to work. Or the implementation of the COLA. This is really a tickler since WM and one of the Pension Board trustees Ray Landes are both in this same station.

In other happenings it is apparent that while MW the fire fighter, may remember the many times the union has taken the city to task for contractual violations, it is very likely that MW the fire chiefs crony, remembers these embarrassments only too well.

If Mike Wimmers is indeed ready to turn his "I care about the union" switch back on, then I welcome his desire. Unfortunately it will take a whole lot of convincing that this is nothing more than another administrative attempt to wrestle the reins away from the UNION Leadership and to remove the Political might it has regained and is in a great position of strengthening in the next few weeks.

A vote for MW is unfortunately a vote for City Administration and that is not were we need to revisit now or ever.
TEAM: WoW!

Received via Email 08.29.09  The attempted hostile take over by weiners will not work, just like it didn't for fatburg..Newton, Newton,Newton, "Can You Dig IT?"

Received via Email 08.30.09  Word has it Chief Large has been visiting MFS and talking Wimmers into running.  MMMMM, is their fear in the upper echelon of HQ? Maybe they want to keep the new regime strong with the dictatorial attitude that keeps the troops under submission. Pres Newton has and will continue fighting hard for the little guy.  Lets not go backwards and bring back the days of ole. Our new Mayor and local 747 with Newton at the helm can give the citizens and the firefighters back their department as it should be.

Received via Email 08.30.09  Mike Wimmers was dedicated to the union for many years before AND after his presidency.  After the union was force fed the supplemental pension plan in 1971, nobody was able to budge things our way an inch until Wimmers became president and lowered the minimum retirement age from 55 to 50.  It was a big deal at the time because the city threatened to never give up anything regarding pension improvements.  Mike did a lot more than that that during his tenure, but it was his reduction in the retirement age that paved the way for every other improvement we have enjoyed since.

Instead of talking behind his back maybe some of  you curious backstabbing liars might want to try the stand up thing and give Mike a call with your questions.  He will probably be at work since unlike others he hasn't switched to 52 hours a week of pool time.

Received via Email 08.30.09  With the beat down by the membership that Super Union Man, Super Team Player Ray Landis took, why on earth would Mike Wimmers listen to this guy? Ray and the Chief are pimping him out. I understand that Ray was in the union hall the other day to give Winnie the good news that he was running for office. I'd ove to be a fly on the wall and hear what kind of platform he's going to run on. Why is it that some can't help their union unless they totally control it?

Received via Email 08.30.09  Mike, I love ya but you're sadly ill equipped to run this union. You're 20 years behind the game in IAFF education and thinking and have "0" track record amongst the members of council, state and federal officials. You also have "0" chance of ruining what we've built. 

Before I'd ever vote for you, I'd have to ask you if you thought that you were better prepared to take office than Rick Pauley? Unlike Rick Feinberg who never shared a lick of information with anyone at all, Winnie takes the entire E Board (and then some) with him on every union educational opportunity. Ask Spike Jones, Chris Bengivengo or Mike Blank if they were largely left in the dark. Also, for all appearences you look like the chief's closest confidant and you don't shy away from it. Mike, what would you think of a guy who's running for union office that spends more time with the chief than he does on union business? If you lay down with mutts you're going to get fleas. See you at the polls.

Received via Email 08.30.09  I would think one would do their homework before running an 11th hour campaign for president of this Local. Just sayin'.

Received via Email 08.30.09  Hey Ray.  Don't send me anymore bullshit text messages over my cellphone. I'll vote for whoever I want to and your chickenshit display is pathetic.

Received via Email 08.30.09  I was on duty last union meeting but I didn't hear anything about Mike or Ray or RayMike running for office. Why would someone with so much support and so much to say about every that the current union administration is doing wrong, not show up with at least 1 person to nominate them? I'm not taking any shots at anyone but this shit if for real and mistakes in leadership can cost us for a lifetime.

Received via Email 08.30.09  Hey Mike.  Is being union president in your 3 year plan?

Received via Email 08.30.09  mike is a former prez, he has gotten things done in the past, he is not 20 years in the past, mike is very aware of what is going on with our union, and i can tell you that he has already sunk his teeth into this and starting to run with great ideas. Its time to get the dictator and his cronies out. lets trim out the fatties and have our union a friendlier place to have meetings again.

TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!       VOTE WIMMERS!!!!

Received via Email 08.30.09  I sent an email ealier that contained the line "I understand that Ray was in the union hall the other day to give Winnie the good news that he was running for office." It should have read "I understand that Mike was in the union hall."  Come to think of it, I never ever seem them together. What if they're one in the same?

Received via Email 08.30.09  Hell yeah! I want a guy for president that won't talk tough with me when I'm not doing my part. I want a guy for president that's slim and trim because those are essential requirements of the office. I want a guy in office that's only in there on his day off because it's important to me to know that if my lame ass is sweating on a fire truck somewhere, by God he ought to be too. I especially want a guy in office that will make the union hall a friendlier place. I want a president who will invite every piece of shit wannabe fireman who has never done a thing for himself let alone anyone else back to the union hall and tell him that the doors are now open to a friendlier union hall. I especially want a union president who will get along better with the fire chief and his piece of shit fu**ed up assistant chief, no matter how out of control they get. I have always been and will forever be a slave and I know in my heart that the chief and his fu**ed up assistant chief know what's best for me even when they violate my civil rights. I have a shitpot full of money in the bank and it matter little to me that my union president is fully prepared to bring the full force of the law to bear to protect me so long as I pay for it.

Received via Email 08.30.09  I was one of many in and out of the union hall, all day, today and I can tell you that I've never seen a bigger army of men and women working for the betterment of our Local. While the B shift was on duty the A and C shifts were preparing for what election day would bring. Last minute phone calls were being made to A & B shifters (C shift's on duty for the elections), firming up their commitment to represent L747 at the polls. A & C shifters were manning three different intersections with signs while Kathleen Ford's HQ staff made several stops by our office to resupply us with literature and sign materials. All the while we had stacks of varying sizes of union tee-shirts being readied to be delivered along with their respective cache' of yard signs and palm cards. We had a regular production line going. I wish all of you could have seen it. You would have been proud.

On a sad note, we had many of the youngsters in the office, today, who will no doubt end up being laid-off at the end of September unless the Union can intervene on their behalf later in the week at the City Council meeting. As much as Chief Large has tried to work deals to keep them on past the first of the new year, the Mayor couldn't be budged. The whole group of them were out performing literature drops while other work was being completed at the union hall. Winnie surprised them by calling them up and inviting them all to lunch at YaYa's with us. After a great lunch, we went in two directions. Those of us working at the union hall went back to what we were doing and the youngsters went back to completing their assigned tasks. These guys understand the meaning of "never say die." Truly, a greater bunch I've never seen.

On a brighter note, Pete Hill stopped by the hall to pick up his polling place gear and made mention of the fact that he and his partner had a rescue call near Bill Foster's office. He went on to say that they saw Bill and for some reason, he appeared to be in a bit of a huff. With the rescue call winding down, our rescue crew made their back to the near vicinity of their rescue truck when Foster approached. He said something to the effect of, "You guys are killing me. Everywhere I look I see those damned yellow shirts on the street corners."

He was seeing IAFF Gold and Black!






Jon Pearl



Received via Email 08.30.09  w/e 8-28-09 Final results of tracking poll for St. Petersburg Mayor's contest.

Ford..........34%

Foster........32%

Gibbons.......11%

Wagman........ 9%

Williams...... 6%

Bennett....... 4%

Helm.......... 3%

Warren........<1%

Eldridge......<1%

Congemi.......<1%

Received via Email 09.01.09  Well today's the day and I couldn't be more proud of the job that has been done so far in the political arena by Local 747.  At last the word has begun to show fruition.  For many years I firmly believed that political activities would never be a means by which to further our needs as firefighters.  But I have to admit that in the past year or two I've had to change my mind.  And it has to be because of the hard work and dedication of the members of Local 747 getting off their asses and getting the job done.  Apparently political action works when it's done right.  And I take my hat off to all of you who are doing a great job making it abundantly clear that when it's done right it works.  The leadership has performed a task which eluded the vast majority of the past presidents and that was getting the membership involved in a very big way.  I'm very proud of the work and dedication of each and every member of the Local.  And let me take this opportunity to say congratulations to Kathleen Ford on her win in the upcoming runoff.  This is a big one for the members of Local 747 and they can be very, very proud of the job they did in affecting the outcome of this election. 

Dick Tully
Blairsville, Georgia
TEAM:  Keep your fingers crossed, Dick.  We may have good news for you tonight.

Received via Email 09.02.09  The truth and nothing but the truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&feature=player_embedded

Received via Email 09.02.09  The truth and nothing but the truth....is this what we want for our children?
www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/02/critics-decry-obamas-lesson-plan-students

Received via Email 09.02.09  I got my Wimmers letter in the mail today. I was expecting something on the scale of MONUMENTOUS but I didn't see it. Was there a second page that I'm missing?

Received via Email 09.02.09  I read Wimmers letter today also. I like him and I thank him for his past work but I won't vote for him at present. We had over 100 members on the street on Tuesday and it wasn't because everyone just showed up. It was because of good leadership. Did you notice what the cops had on their backs and what they had in their hands? Imitation being the best form of flattery we must be doing something right. We were three for three in the primaries again.

The SS offset wasn't removed without good leadership. The COLA wasn't obtained without good leadership. The bullshit physicals with the chief's secretary making copies to CD of your most personal information is now mostly gone because of good leadership and because a 34 year veteran with the courage of his convictions chose to stand up to this fire department's horribly corrupt and morally bankrupt front office. The way I see it, I have a choice to side with a few people who by their own admission are outside of the inner circle or I can stay with what works. They feel like they're on the outside because they'd rather run the union their own way rather than run 'with' it even when we're experiencing the most successful run in our history.

I'm not saying that Mike wouldn't be a good leader, just that we've got one now and I remain unconvinced when one of Mike's supporters keeps repeating that we need Mike in office simply because it's time for a change. How moronic.

Received via Email 09.03.09  I'll vote for whomever the chief tells me.  I'm a couple down on the Lt's list and I can use the help.

Received via Email 09.03.09   Can I believe what I am reading in some of these posts? Someone has a problem with the current president working near bout every waking hour on Union Activities? Have any of you complainers ever experianced that the office is open at the station until past 2am? Do any of these complainers realize that the president's day begins each morning when the off going shifts have tossed and turned all night mulling over a problem and they just have to get it off their chest before they go home? And dont think the oncoming shifts and the Administration wait until 8:00 am to start their phone calls concerning their problems and concerns from the last shift. Have any of the complainers ever been in a station when the president has called late in the evening to followup with a member? Do any of the complainers ever offer to move out of the station when the president returns in the evening hours and finds out that he needs to cover at another station? Do any of the complainers realize that even with all of the hours that he spends doing union business, he is still required to maintain his CME's and company drills? I am more than happy to know that My President is willing to spend whatever hours are necessary to complete the tasks that are heaped upon him daily. Now ask yourself this do the complainers know for certain that the new president will ever come close to maintaing these hours? We can either go with factual history, or we can go with a campaign promise. The choice is yours but the gamble could be devastating.

Received via Email 09.03.09  Glad to see you can layoff guys and still make promotions great job - not.

Received via Email 09.06.09  Hey can will you post on this web site all the addresses and phone numbers of the admin people so we can picket their houses?

Received via Email 09.06.09   I just went by the union office to get a free sticker and sneak out with 3 yoo-hoos and no one was there. WTF its only 22:16 on a sunday night. I thought they are always there. Ok, I will try again tomorrow while I am enjoying my holiday weekend.

Received via Email 09.07.09  http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/fire/fire-engulfs-st-petersburg-home-displaces-9-people/1033934Read the comments.
TEAM: Thanks, we fixed the link.

Received via Email 09.08.09  Famous quotes from this page:

"Mike did a lot more than that that during his tenure, but it was his reduction in the retirement age that paved the way for every other improvement we have enjoyed since."

I'LL ADMIT IT. EVERYTIME WE GET SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF PAY OR PENSION, MIKE IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND. ALL THE FOLLOWERS HAVE QUITE SIMPLY BEEN CHOPPED LIVER.

"He will probably be at work since unlike others he hasn't switched to 52 hours a week of pool time."

A 52 HOUR WEEK. DUDE, YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF ONE QUESTION, IS THERE AN AWARD FOR TURNING BACK POOL TIME AT THE END OF THE YEAR? POOL TIME IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. I'LL BET THE CHIEF ONLY WORKS A 52 HOUR WEEK. THE MAYOR PROBABLY NEVER BOTHERS HIM AT HOME DURING THE EVENINGS OR ON WEEKENDS. ASK YOURSELF, WHERE IS WINNIE THIS WEEK? I'LL TELL YOU. HE'S ON VACATION TIME FOR THE MONTH YET HE'S IN THE OFFICE WORKING FOR YOU AND ME. THERE'S NOT ANOTHER SWINGING DICK ON THIS JOB THAT'S GOING TO PERFORM AT HIS LEVEL - I DON'T CARE WHAT HAS BEEN YOU PROP UP IN HIS CHAIR. DID I MENTION R-DAYS AND WEEKENDS AND NIGHTS. DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED. MIKE WOULD DO WELL TO ASK YOU NOT TO HELP HIM BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT. OTHER THAN US PROVIDING HIM WITH A JOB IN HIS RETIREMENT, TELL ME AGAIN HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO GET EVEN BETTER THAN THEY ARE NOW? 

"Dont look at it as running against Winnie, look at it as an interested person trying to help the union. Remember Change is good."

HE SHOULD HAVE FILLED THE STATION STEWARDS POSITION AT HIS OWN STATION IF HE WAS REALLY JONESING TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR HIS PEOPLE.

Received via Email 09.08.09  How come you wont print the address of the infidels?
TEAM: Uh... cuz we don't want you getting into trouble?

Received via Email 09.08.09  http://www.kathleenford.com/page/fy-2010-budget-proposal
The Ford budget will reduce the salary for all management staff who make over $90,000 annually, including the Mayor. This is in addition to the salary rollback of 2.5% recently enacted by Mayor Baker. City staff making over $100,000 will receive a 10-percent reduction. Staff making $90,000-$100,000 will receive a 5-percent reduction.

This reduction will save the City $720,000 a year and bring the salaries of management more in line with the salaries of their employees, as well as the citizens that they serve.

The two jimmies better start paddling faster. They'll never keep up with inflation with Kathleen Ford on their asses.

Received via Email 09.09.09  I don't know about messing around in station 3's decon room but someone sent this to me as a tagline in an email and I thought if fit the situation to a T.  "A good moral character is the first essential in a man..." --George Washington

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Received via Email 09.09.09  Well you can cancel SZ from 4A I work with and all of the DCs and the chiefs and the most of the Lts from c shift

Received via Email 09.10.09  I keep hearing that the whole MFS is voting for Mike Wimmers. With so many new guys at this station all voting the same way, what does it say about how you're voting?

Received via Email 09.10.09  MFS is like a bunch of fickle little kids.  Last year they all loved winnine now they hate him.  Next year they will hate Mike W..  Take this advice Mike W., you are surrounded by a bunch of little pre schoolers and you they cant be trusted.  Not all, just most of them.

Received via Email 09.10.09  Have you heard the saying, knowledge is power? Well those in know have sent on their ballots with an X in the Newton box!

Received via Email 09.10.09  I know we're busy with election complaining but NBC nightly news got it right last night, 9/10. Although its those guys from DC, the message shows some of the crap we deal with, and what D.C. is doing about it seems like a pretty good idea.  Maybe Chief Knight saw this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#32788872

Received via Email 09.11.09  Gee. I don't remember Mike Moore's 2nd DVP website. http://www.fpfdistrict2.com/  Like the poster above said, knowledge is power.

Received via Email 09.11.09  The kids at the MFS pre-school would vote for the punisher if they were promised they could be in charge, act, or get off of the rescue truck. There is a biblical verse that best explains the lack of knowledge that is being claimed by the Wimmers worshipers, You have not because you ask not. That might be way over the heads of most but just ask Mike, maybe he knows the answer to what it means. If he cant help you, then I suggest you continue to do what you've been doing for the past 5 years, dont pick up the phone and ask President Newton if he can explain this and other things to you.

Received via Email 09.12.09  So, if Prevention has the ok to fill the firefighter position that has been empty or awhile, why is it that we havent heard that one ,ore of the new kids gets to keep his job? I think we is being scamed. We keep losing our workers off the rigs and nobody gives a s**t.

Received via Email 09.13.09
Dear chief.

Please promote Mark Sweet to Lt. ASAP.

You've had him on your team long enough that it's now time.



Sincerely,

A UNION member.

Received via Email 09.13.09  If you promote him we will have to weed out a new informant to warn people about.  Come on.  He is more valuable as a turn coat in the ranks than as an officer to the chiefs.

Received via Email 09.13.09  Every waking moment Mark is working for all of us. He gives pool time, cooks hot dogs at various events during the year, attends union meetings, walks neighborhoods with politicians, builds signs, attends city council meetings at a moments notice and stops by the union hall during the week to empty the trash and lend a hand. Ultimately, he is his brother's keeper.




Just kidding.

He's whatever you want him to be.....................................................................................................(ask anybody).

Received via Email 09.14.09  Anybody notice a trend here? Count how many rats have come out of hiding lately. The chief and the punisher are losing control because the union fights back and wins so he surrounds himself with people you can't trust and wouldn't bring home to meet the wife and the kids. Sad.

Received via Email 09.14.09  I was talking to the chief the other day and he didn't have anything bad to say about Mark at all. He couldn't stop talking about him. He said he's one of his best guys.

Received via Email 09.14.09  We always whisper around him. Shhhhhh...........

Received via Email 09.14.09  A little bird told me that shift change at #10 is becoming a hostile place to work. Chris White and fatburger mother f*** the union on a daily basis along with their asshole buddy the A shift captain. Word has it that the people who aren't buying into all this and aren't feeling very comfortable. Apparently White's telling everyone that if the union were doing its job the city wouldn't be throwing 5 guys out on the street. Well if Chris White had any balls and half a clue he'd know what some of the rest of us know and thats that the union is working on a deal between the city and Lealman right now to lease these guys to Lealman until they can return. The Lealman chief is cool with it. Truth be told, if Chris White were really that concerned with their future here, he could leave now instead of sucking the very last penny out of the city and he alone could save two of their jobs. Here's a guy that done nothing but work agains the union and he's leave two of his kids behind in the union he shits all over. How f---ed up is that? GOD is wish I were as smart and bitter as him! He's the guy that took time off for aroma therapy in Hawaii and was also Sleepless in Seminole. He's worked the system for his own gain but when the union tries to work the system for all of the rest of us he shits on the union president. What a giant brain one must have to sit and cure all the union's ills with fatburger and Wally every 3rd morning. They'd all be better off to follow the advice of the three monkeys.

Received via Email 09.14.09  It's kind of humorous that guys like Chris White and Mike Moore have been smiffing around HQ looking for an inspectors job and they're getting the cold shoulder. Must be really sad when HQ AND the UNION show you the door.

Received via Email 09.14.09  Man........ the boys from station 3 are taking a beating this week. One guy's doing women in the wash room and the other's a secret double secret agent.

Received via Email 09.14.09  Everyone should steer clear of these cancers like any other cancer.

Received via Email 09.15.09  I hear tell that a former female firefighter had The Invisible Man on the stand yesterday and he was sweating bullets. Hey chief, get a clue. One of your 941 buddies on the Lt's list is going to have you in court again. Funny how management always looks the other way when one of their favorites is doing dirty.

Received via Email 09.15.09  Editor: This post deemed innappropriate and removed.

Received via Email 09.15.09  I just read this story and I think I've found a job for JW in retirement. He can be a flag czar. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,550063,00.html

Received via Email 09.15.09  It is no suprise to hear about station 10's attitudes. Eanes has always been anti everything that did not personnaly benefit him or get him a happy ending. He has feastered his pus filled thoughts throughout his station, and it has taken hold even with his newest probie. I dont think that the entire 3 shifts have have more than 2 friends apiece. So now Chief White deceides that he doesnt want to get a smaller going away party than Chief Jabba got so he is trying to become a sensitive touchy feely guy. He thinks that his last 6 shifts will make up for the last 34 years and 10 months of being totally assinine. Good luck shit head. I didnt like you yesterday and I surely wont like you tomorrow. As for Feinstein he wont ever have my respect.

Received via Email 09.15.09  It's the bad apple syndrome at its best. Everyone's happy eating free apples in the dark, then someone turns the lights on. Can you imagine overthrowing one of the best union leaders in the state of Florida and replacing him with some old school hack. I can't imagine Rick or Billy sticking around for too long under a total lack of leadership. Careful what you all ask (vote) for. We could be going backwards 25 years because we supposedly need a change. I think more to the point, someone want's a retirement job.

Received via Email 09.16.09  The chief sweats bullets and we're getting ready for another bus trip. Boy are we fu**ed.

Received via Email 09.16.09  If our union would stay united we would not have any of this crap. Look at the big picture.  Many benefits we have received that we have longed for years: the ss offset, a cola, a raise when all else is getting cut, no more using vacation when you are really sick, and much much more.  Now we are gaining control of the political arena and things are about to really change for the firefighter.  But as expected a great front from certain people want the leadership in the Union changed, why? Well just figure it out.  We have the new chief SK calling people and telling them to vote for MW.  MMMMMM that should be a clue.  The current UNION leadership is working hard daily for your rights and benefits and all know it.  A change will only hurt YOU.  Think hard about this!!!  It is your future !!!


Received via Email 09.16.09  2nd 9-16- W.C. Fields said, "You can't cheat an honest man."

I know of no one who was formerly in our union with the initials SK who is an honest man. The SK that we all know is dishonest and dishonorable. He was exposed as a spy for the city's administration during an arbitration hearing for paramedic pay scale compression. His name was redacted from a document that the city's attorney thought to be key to their defense. The only problem with removing his name from the top of the document was the fact that they mistakenly left his name at the bottom of the document. This is but a single example of the life that this man leads on a daily basis. If you are an honest man, you will endeavor to always tell the truth and you'll never feel trepidation from tripping over your own words speaking with 'any' man.

I have a hard time knowing that Human nature's default setting encourages us to always tell the truth yet there are those on this job who have a compromised set of values. They will always default to the "what's best for me" or "what can I get out of this?" mode. This industry is really no different in some ways from any other when you peel back the Human veneer. How many of these individuals do you suppose know the difference between telling a lie and being a liar? There are people on this job that I would never ask an important question of because I know their answer will always be tainted by some special need to be liked, to get ahead, or to be viewed as worthy by the soupe du jour  clique.

While I'm on a roll here, I'd like to make an observation about some of the new guys that we have on the job now. The old saying, "with age comes wisdom" couldn't be truer. Each and every one of us needs to reinforce the need to be active in our union of firefighters. I say "union of firefighters" because it's just that. Too many times the word 'union' gets thrown around like it's some kind of inanimate object. It's not! It's you and me working together for a common cause. The single reed is easily broken but when we bundle them together they are unbreakable! To cite an example of an attempt at union bashing; during a recent morning consultation meeting between the union, HR and fire administration, Jim Wimberly got a little defensive about something that was said. His response was to attack us as he threw out that nasty fire letter word - union. He took grief from nearly every side of the table. I personally took umbrage with his comments as he wouldn't know this union of firefighters if it fell on him. How could he possibly? Anyhow, he quickly retreated back into his foxhole in mea culpa fashion when no one came to his defense. He is one guy who's truly out of his element when he can't totally control every aspect of a situation.

This very scenario of union bashing is being played-out in fire stations all over this city. Can any of you imagine what we all have to gain by these acts by individuals against the body? It doesn't work well for "all" of us but apparently it works well for a few. The new guy not having attained enough age or wisdom is a ready-made target for the union and the ne'er do wells, alike. Over the many weeks that the new guys find themselves going through the many evolutions to finally get assigned to a shift, the union gets them for a single morning to place whatever magic spell we have, over them. 3-4 hours of indoctrination and 'presto', instant unionist's. Once out in the companies they can fall prey to the bitter pills. These bright fellows come in many forms but all have the same objective and that's to be subjective. They always point to flaws in the system, how they got screwed, how the union didn't fight hard enough for them, how the union spends money, etc., etc... When you distill it all down, they're all in the middle of a tug-o-war. Like our friend above, if they can't totally control ever aspect of the union, instead of actively working for the changes they believe are warranted, they sit on the periphery and throw invectives and they hold grudges. Again, being subjective not objective. For those who fall prey to the dark side early on, they're down of the union (that would be all of us paying dues) and when asked why, their only recollection is a used one... the recollection of another. They in-fact have probably never been wronged by this union or its leadership. They've chosen simply instead to just get-along with some of their bitter pill station mates and join the flame fest. A better solution might be to take an objective look and ask yourselves "Where have we been?" "Where are we now?" "Where are we going?"

"[W]e ought to deprecate the hazard attending ardent and susceptible minds, from being too strongly, and too early prepossessed in favor of other political systems, before they are capable of appreciating their own." --George Washington, letter to the Commissioners of the District of Columbia, 1795

Received via Email 09.16.09  Re: Post #3 9.16.09: "They always point to flaws in the system, how they got screwed, how the union didn't fight hard enough for them, how the union spends money, etc." You are exactly right. The newer guys need to be asking those individules who was the union president (BET IT WAS NOT WINNIE) and leadership when they were so unhappy? They also need to ask them if they have ever been part of the union leadership (steward, shift VP, etc.) and if they haven't been why are they griping?               
IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Received via Email 09.16.09  I hope Wimmers wins. That will really piss off the five of you who post crap on this site. Then look at the bright side: one more thing to bitch about!

Us vs Them Site Summary
Total Visits Since 8-5-2005 408,080
Average Visits Per Day 291
Average Page Views Per Visit 4.9
Visits Last Hour 26
Visits Today 250
This Week 2,039

TEAM: That's over 81,000 visits each for your 5 guys in just over 4 years.  Cool.

Received via Email 09.16.09  TEAM: Tone that last one down a bit and try again and maybe we'll publish it for you.  Oh, and drop the "accident" thing.  You're scaring us.

Received via Email 09.16.09  To the I hope Wimmers wins guy. I think someone dedicated about 5 paragraphs above to loser FINO's just like you. And I wouldn't worry too much about wimmer winning anything other than a drinking contest. Someone clue me, what other union has a single member that hasn't been heard from in 25 years running against a winning president anywhere? We're screwed if we allow a few disgruntled windbags to win over us. FTM and FU

Received via Email 09.16.09  Dear "TEAM",
I realize reading comprehension is not everyone's strong suit (heck, my fourth grader just got a handle on it), so I won't be too belittling. With that said, my post alluded to the point that 5 people "post" to this site, not that 5 people "visit" this site. I think we can all agree with the figures you so graciously supplied us above as being factual since you have to figure everyone in our administration most likely has this website as their homepage.
There is that saying: "Know your enemy," which is from Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", I think. Hmm, now that I think of it, maybe it's a song from Green Day. Or, Rage Against the Machine? Maybe both, but I'm getting off the subject.
So, yeah this site is visited often, but I still hold to the notion that only a handful post here. I said 5, but since I've posted twice, I guess it is up to 6. Keep up the good work!
Sincerely,
#6 

Received via Email 09.17.09  9-15 #4 Eanes is what he's always been. Still in the Air Force. He's a ball buster. Just like Callahan, Jimmy surrounds himself with ball busters so that he can come out to the stations, eat your food, listen to your complaints about the ball busters, answer question by those on the list about when the next promotion will be made and generally be everyone friend. The great pretender.

Received via Email 09.18.09  VOTE WIMMERS!!!!! , SWEET SHOULD SHOULD BE THE NEXT lt, capt.Eanes will always be an ass, {TEAM} will always be either Norshime or Pearl {who both cant do their job because i have watched them both personally and it was hillarious} they are bitter old men because they cant and dont know how to have a better career. Noshime who always looks like he is  a deer caught in the headlights and Pearl whe looks like Cousin It who is caught in the headlights {Giggitty}, now they have nothing better to say about anybody who is running against winnie {dictator} . When  Landis was running , it was because he was a white shirt, now that Wimmers is running, its because he is friends with the chief, and that is all you got. Wimmers has done alot for this union that has paved the way for winnie. Just so you know , winnie has taken alot of credit for the things that chief Large has porprosed. And just so you know winnie does not want to give up holiday time to save the five firefighters spots. Hey fellas it is gonna happen, and why cant we put it to a vote , i guess that the union decided this on their own, but winnie will take credit for not giving anything up, he will be the first union pres. that lost five positions when there was an opportunity to save them.
Team:  So Sorry... no one told you?  Before you go and get all skippy with yourself over who's taking credit for what, you might want to check yourself.  You're going to be eating your words in the next few days.  We aren't going to use holiday time to straighten out the mess that the city created because there will not be a need to. 

Received via Email 09.18.09  There's a big difference between Large proposing anything and Winnie accomplishing everything.  Oh yeah, Lincoln freed the slaves so he gets credit for paving the way for minorites getting on the job 110 year later?  Your logic is as bad as your grammar.

Received via Email 09.18.09  Just so YOU know, the city told all 6 of them when they came on that they might get laid off. Just so YOU know, I'm not giving up a $1000 of MY holiday time when the city's sitting on millions. Just so YOU know, Large could save at least 1 of the 5 by not putting another blue shirt inspector in HQ. Just so YOU know, I wish we could take it to a vote to shut all you f***ers up because we would vote to keep our money and send them down the road. If the city gave a shit about them they'd keep them. I hope they all stay wherever it is that they're going because this city treated them like shit. Just so YOU know.

Received via Email 09.18.09  Just so YOU know - your an a-- hole.

Received via Email 09.19.09   AS I was watching the City Council Budget Hearing Thursday night, a great revalation came upon me. The Mayor just dont give a shit about anyone. Then he had the gall to tell Chief Large how to answer a question asked of him by a Council member. It was also pointed out in a loud and clear manner that of the 5 probies, 1 has accepted a job elsewhere in the city, 1 will work with at his families business, and the other 3 have app in to other depts. Of these 3, 2 have said no thanks to working in any other capicity for the city the other said he would consider. BTW, did anyone see Mike Wimmers in the audienance? As usual, I saw President Newton and S/T Mott.

Received via Email 09.20.09  Hey, whens the election over, I mean when will Pres. Will Newton get another term! Thanks god he isn't a crack sniffer like all those past wanna bes-again..FTM Go Newton!

Received via Email 09.20.09   Maybe Wimmers was at the union office with the others building campaign signs. What did you expect? He made his 3 meetings last month. We will never have to worry about wimmers burning the midnight oil or A/C at the office during his tenure.

Received via Email 09.21.09  when are we going to get rid of the chiefs in city hall and oh I mean the HQ.  Also all new guys on C shift.  Zamp is not your friend.  Stand up to him and put him in his place.  Zamp is Mark Sweets buddy.  ANd we all know how that turns out.

Received via Email 09.21.09 
Question: Why is the firehouse lawyer Mark Sweet telling everyone that the union is against the Driver Engineer classification?
Answer: Because he's a shit stirer who's never been to negotiations to find out the truth. The city has turned us down repeatedly telling us that they weren't interested at the present time. Classifying DE just like EMT means more money and more money in your pension.
I don't know who's stupider. Mark Sweet who doesn't know shit about shit telling anybody ANYTHING or the people who listen to him. Now why don't you blame Pearl or Nolsheim (it's not Norshiem) for your being a dumbass too?

Received via Email 09.21.09  Brother & Sisters,

There is a Pinellas County Board of County Commissioners this Tuesday @ 1830hrs. The meeting is going to be held at the Clearwater 315 Court St. This meeting is very important because St. Pete Beach is going to attempt to keep the County EMS funding for R-23.  This directly will reduce the level of service to the citizens!  If St. Pete Beach does keep the funding for R-23, three paramedic positions that are set to be cut on Oct. 1st will also not be eliminated!

SO - Let's Recap - KEEP FUNDING = Keep the level of service for the public &  Keep 3 Positions!  

Please spread the word the best you can!

See you on Tuesday!  Plus - might not hurt to e-mail the county commissioners!


Pinellas County Commission Members
315 Court Street
Clearwater, FL  33756
p: (727) 464-3276 | f: (727) 464-3022

Neil Brickfield nbrickfield@pinellascounty.org
Calvin Harris charris@pinellascounty.org
Nancy Bostock nbostock@pinellascounty.org
Karen Seel kseel@pinellascounty.org
John Morroni jmorroni@pinellascounty.org
Kenneth Welch ktwelch@pinellascounty.org

Thanks in advance!

Local 2266

Received via Email 09.23.09  Nahhhh... Can't.

Received via Email 09.24.09  Nice coke heads at sta 8

Received via Email 09.24.09  Nahhhhh... not happening.

Received via Email 09.24.09  Congrats to Winnie Newton on another term for the presidency of our great local.  The members have spoken.

Received via Email 09.24.09  Big grin!

Received via Email 09.24.09  8-24 No.1 We discussed this at the union meeting last night. We all decided that we were'nt going to be the vultures that the news media is on the subject so consider it case closed.

Received via Email 09.26.09  To 9/24. You friggin fino. So all the members at #8 are cokeheads? Are all the guys formerly from #2 B dress wearin fags? How about those metro sexual bi curious guys at the MFS? The racist at 3/A? Humm what else,NOTHING! To stamp every person anything because of an alleged drug found? Where is the innocent before guilty? St.8 had over 12 different people from 3 shifts fillin in the day after the incident, not to mention the day before a lite duty guy washin his cloths for a couple hours?! The medic that discovered the,"stuff" is a Canadian! I know its not exactly honest, but if you were one of two people at a station, and found this stuff, wouldn't it have crossed your mind to flush it, and save face for the hundreds of firefighters that are 100% honest? Its so bad, I don't wear any of my F&R tee shirts as I have been asked if I was at the, "Drug Station!" more than once this week. So, lets all get on the same page and try to believe in each other. If by chance you're the one that had the shit, get help, either adult up, and admit it or get straight.
Oh yeah, A BIG THANK YOU to Pres. Newton for showing up at #8 to support the Firefighters on TV news.

Received via Email 09.26.09  for all the calls they run maybe they need to be on coke to stay awake.

Received via Email 09.26.09  There are racists at 3A?

Received via Email 09.27.09  No matter how many runs, they still make the same paycheck? So why stay awake? Whos the asshole coke sniffer now 9/26/2? So WHY stay awake?

Received via Email 09.28.09  This issue will soon be closed in the eyes of the PD so why dont we do the same thing and let it die. There is no proof, there is no one stepping up to say I did it, there are no witness's, and there is no one showing signs of substance abuse. Let it go....

Received via Email 09.29.09  http://usvsthem.homestead.com/Editorials.html What a difference a year or two makes [not]. I was nosing around the website and reread Scotty's letter to the chief from a couple of years ago. He was right then and he's still right.

Received via Email 09.29.09  This little train didn't run so hot in 2007 when Montanari and Faulkner went down the drain almost took Polson with them. All with Gibbons, Baker, and support of the black elite pushing them.  These black guys take your picture, litter car windshields on Sundays with it, and parade into a few churches where most people nod and act polite and then vote their own business on Election Day. It is getting old. It can get easily upended with something as small as the firefighters working against them ... and gee, who got that firefighters endorsement?

Ford, baby.

Posted by: overrated | September 28, 2009 at 06:40 PM

Hay Bill are tou going to let Goliath Davis keep driving the illegal police car? That the SP Times won't report.

Posted by: Jay | September 29, 2009 at 03:26 PM

It's usually parked outside a certain art gallery down town if you want it.

Posted by: ahem | September 29, 2009 at 04:06 PM

To AHEM: Are you talking about Leslie Currans art store? I saw him there! uh-oh..are you telling us.....ewwwwwwww gross bluch...belch...gag...hurry get this visual outta my head.

Posted by: Jillian Greene | September 29, 2009 at 07:10 PM

This is some hillarious shit. The chief's don't like what's being said on this website but I don't hear any bitching about what goes on in the newspaper. I guess the first amendment is alive and well in Metropolis.
http://blogs.tampabay.com/baybuzz/2009/09/bill-foster-alienates-influential-leaders-in-midtown/comments/page/3/#comments

Received via Email 09.30.09  It obvious by the editors posting a week ago that more people read and believe what is on this site over the St. Pete Times. I also agree with AHEM's posting on 9/29. God dont make me visualize that. 

Received via Email 10.01.09  Scott's letter how true some times the view never changes!

Received via Email 10.02.09  If you guys really want to get under the skin of our leaders just read the online versions of stories on the St Pete Times website and post your replies there. Many more people see these posts than what sees them here.

Received via Email 10.02.09  ROTFLMAO -
Jen from St. Petersburg Oct 5th, 2009 9:04 am
"We need no nonsense leaders who get the job done! Enough of these pansies and those who make excuses for them. Tough times require tough leaders. Ford tough. You bet and I'm voting for her!" http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/local/temperament-could-be-issue-in-mayoral-campaign/1041099

Received via Email 10.05.09  Just saw the Gov at CVS.  He is here for an event with the Semblers and Foster.  Hopefully that will backfire on Foster. We need to take Foster down.  Go Ford.
TEAM: If you've been following the paper lateley, his campaign seems to be imploading.  He got the 'Times endorsement and now it seems more like the kiss of death.  Ford Tough!

Received via Email 10.05.09  How can the tiems endorese someone who does not like gay people and say that the jews had it coming to them in the holocost according to darwinism.  The times is scared that Ford will drop the hammer and clean up the city.  Bye bye lots of people and Large.  As you know fosters brother lives behind large.

Received via Email 10.06.09  Welcome Chief Johnson to the A shift.  He is truly a firefighters chief backing us on the staffing issue.  We are proud to have him on the A shift.  This is just punishment from the Chief and his Prince.  Well it is going to back fire because the A shift is proud and happy to have a real man with some balls who will stand up for his men and women.  Welcome Chief Johnson.

Received via Email 10.07.09  The A shift is making out on this deal. Glad to have you back on your ole shift Richie.

Received via Email 10.07.09  After several years on the island I find myself back on the mainland. I want to thank my brothers at Station #2 b for making me feel very welcome and wanted. I also, extend thanks to those who have called and welcomed me back. I am in my last year, and reflecting back on 33 years, I am amazed that this job has taken such a drastic change for the worse. Good riddance Jerry Chalmer's, (I generally do not degrade fellow brothers) but when this pathetic excuse for a human being told me that he did not care if my daughter was having open heart surgery, I would HAVE to accept mandatory overtime.....well what goes around comes around. That being said, I still consider all of you brothers and sisters.  Thanks to our Local for a job well done.....Go Ford

Wayne Dusi

Received via Email 10.07.09  Hate to see Chief Johnson leave the "B" shift. He definately knows how to run a fire and will keep his crews safe. Good luck Chief and keep sticking that thorn in admins side every chance you get. We also welcome Zamp to the "B" shift.

Received via Email 10.07.09  Factoid; St. Pete Beach Fire fights County over EMS budget, does not lose the 3 personel as threatened. South Pasadena Fire Dept. fights county over EMS budget gains funding for stand alone rescue. St. Petersburg Fire fights county over EMS budget and loses 3 rescue lieutenants and more. SPFR awards Steve Knight the coveted Fire Officer of the Year honors for losing. Just as the City gave the Finaincial director a bonus for losing only $15 million last year, it is appearent that the big losers working for this city are the workers while those that actually lose the money are hailed as heroes.  Can someone that is good with basic math help me figure this mess out?

Received via Email 10.07.09  The A shift is making out on this deal. Glad to have you back on your ole shift Richie.
"FTM"